AGain like the post above.. tell me why these programs are more superior then neptune or ectune.. You'll spend 250~300 bucks for either program w/ the RTP board and do everything those programs do, for 1/8th the cost.. tell me plz i'm waiting to hear this.

 

neptune come with 4 extra injector drivers now?

 

You get what you pay for.......

 

They do coil on plug now too..

 

Thats not valid proof.. That slogin doesn't apply to this.

eCtune is constantly supported and being devoloped.. Same with neptune.. If your talking "bugs" these programs hardly have any.. Infact, it really doesn't matter what you use.... Its all in the user end to be honest.. I'm just wondering why people Spend 2800.00 on a AEM system when for 400 bucks u can do everything.. you need to do..


and btw yes, you can control 8 injectors with either program, As well as controlling coils.

This isn't cheap EBAY parts or OBX made brand.. This is a program thats been proven and works..

I'm still waiting for the non-ignorant response of why AEM or haltech are better then ectune or neptune.. And dont say "because" you couldn't get it to work.. thats not a valid point, learn the program before u start using it.. pretty simple concept.

 

exactly

 

$2800? wow. lol

 

What are u getting when u pay 2800.00? a "overpriced" name brand box? Have you ever tried to use AEM's system? Its not "newbie" friendly


2800 is a widerange price, i have no idea what new ones go for, but there's local selling a few motec systems for around 1900~2100 bucks.. the 100/200 systems.. and switching over to eCtune.


So who's the guru whos going to tell me why these systems are better..?

 

+1!

 

+1??

Whats that mean .. instead of saying +1 tell me what your getting..?

Are you saying that paying xxxx.00 is justified because its a name brand?
Do you run any of the systems named above 85mmek or you just jock riding?

 

aem cost about 1300 bucks plus 150 map sensor, hows the boost comp on ectune? i recently tuned a 4g63 at 30psi on the dyno with aem and the customer went to the track and turned it up to 45 psi and didn't have to make a single adjustment, then went back to the track again at 49psi and still no changes to the map (the car went 9.0 btw)

 

Both eCtune/Neptune have multiple pre programmed map sensors ready to go.
You have anything from Stock to a GM 3 bar to a OMNI 3bar..and More
You may also add custom sensor voltage and the program will pre caliberate based on the map you've already tuned.


We're talking honda's here, not EVO's..If your going to compare the wide range of cars frome EVO's RX7's and 350z and what not then maybe haltec and AEM are a better product for those lines of cars

For Honda tuning.. they are not.

Both programs allow you to tune boost however you want, whether its a map , or tps based..Pretty simple concept and timeless really..

 

software is the same either way, and i'm talking boost compensation not map sensor scaling

 

They do that....also neptune allows for tuning of boost in up to 4 different stages..
you can also do all that other stuff like boost by gear, etc etc.. like i said.. AEM / haltech and motec are really just ..overpriced.

the only program out right now for hondas that does not compensate, is CromePRO Gold. Which in the near future i'm sure john will update for..

Crome is just as good as these programs as well, i just didn't list it because alot of people are still having a hard time realize, Crome PRO is different from regular ol free crome.

 

go to the race track and see what the fastest guys are running and you will see it generally goes motec, then you mid level aem/electomotive/fast type system, and then the factory based ecus.

 

All Motor, i would recommend staying out of the drag forum judging from all your recent posts i have seen in the last few hours. especially the trans fluid post lol

you have a 220 whp allmotor b series integra which blew up. what makes you a tunning professional or a trans fluid expert or an engine oil expert which you have tried to make yourself sound like in all your recent posts?

look man i dont want to bust your *****, but please stick to the allmotor forum for your own good

 

sorry kid, neptune is no bueno, i got to use it first hand yesterday, it not very fun. especially when your program keeps crashing every 2.5 seconds. the resolution on the map's are retarded. while i would use it on something like a simple street car, i would not use it on something such as a dedicated track car.

 

"kid"
Considering the pretty majority of dyno tuners out there have neptune readly ava to customers.. i have a hard time believeing that.

I've yet to really hear any thing of that nature....I've surely not had that problem and i'm on vista..if it works on vista , it can work on anything..
the map scaling is fine... whats your problem with it?

Sounds like user error to me... you obviously just got the program, and haven't actually sat down and learned the program.

 

Yes, im just a jock rider! Im going to sell all my **** to go with your crap. Here is my car buddy. The screen name is old, im not a tuner but i have been around.

http://wichitaracing.com/forums/showthread.php?t=76367

 

uh k, i'm not signing up to see your car..
Why is my stuff crap..?? Instead of "e-trash talking" put reasons on why These listed systems are better then the ones i listed.. if you can't converse in health conversation.. get lost.. dont get butt hurt because your finding out something for 1/8th the cost can do everything these things do..and are not overpriced.

 

map scaling.... im talking about the resolution on the chart kid.... it needs like 20 more rows and 20 more columns.

i dont know what the problem was, but it would keep freezing up and doing stupid ****. but eventually it started to work. i feel like for the first 15 minutes, as we made adjustments, it was not seen or felt in how the car ran, or on the wideband. i know that AEM/Accel/speed-pro/ bigstuff/haltech/micro-tech/motec would not have an isssue with crap like that.

 

"again" with the kid ****, I'm not some 17 year old ***** who's just getting started in the game here.. "bra".. so chill on calling me a kid..

Secondly.. You obviously didn't see the opition on increasing the rev range and what not on the map scaling that allows for more rows.. Same with boosting.. u can do that as well to add more boost columns.. Again a "new user" error that you had.. not a big deal. Its obvious you were probably having computer issuses.. Nobody that i've tuned , or that has this product has that error or problems.. I will admit i've heard of some vista comps having programs "closing" after being done.. but thats been fixed..


I own all 3. Neptune/ectune/cromeproGOLD - I dont design these products nor care if people use them or not. I care that people have gone out of their way to design these programs and take the time to test and R/D these programs to do everything AEMs,motecs and HALTECHS do. These people Paved the way for DIY and other tuners alike to learn how things actually work, and what it takes to make power, instead of just dropping your car off at a dyno or machine shop and having someone else do the work for you..

I came into this thread hopeing to shed light on you folks that.. these overpriced name brands Aren't always the best choice for what you wanna do. Thats like saying Blox isn't a good brand, i guranatee some people in this thread run their parts.. they are actually an "off" brand.. does that make them bad? Hell their cams are outperform JUNIII's and other Top name brands..

Seriously..

 

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/my-09-sfwd-completed-pics-well-pretty-much-2609092/, there you go, Just running a s372r now, and a few other changes, like I said im not a tuner, but you get what you pay for, alot of these other guys here can explain it alot better then I can and they have been doing it. So im not E- trash talking! Your just getting but hurt!

 

ummm...comon man don't try so hard, just agree that there are many ways to get down the track..just because you can do it with ectune doesn't mean that there isn't a better way, and just because you cant afford a motec doesn't mean a aem wont get the job done, its a discussion not a pissing match...wtf!

 

Allmotor would you surf the internet today with computer from the early 90's? if not why not?