dry nitrous on a b16a in 4th gen

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Old May 9, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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i heard about alot of fried b16s from dry shots. ...about the nos not evenly distributing itself. well i have a zex 50 shot hooked up to mine and i was wondering if thats considered a small / safe application for a b16. that same kit blew the head gasket on my zc (but they suck), but i heard some weird stories about the b16s. anybody?
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Old May 9, 2004 | 10:43 PM
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I ran a 75 shot with the ZEX dry kit on my D16Y8, I put alot of bottles through it and never had a problem. I even went to a 100 shot dry, but then I ended up lifting the head. Even distribution is not a problem on a dry kits as long as the nozzle is placed more than 12" away from the throttle body, 18" would be the better.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:12 AM
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Default Re: dry nitrous on a b16a in 4th gen (RyanCivic2000)

my nozzle was right at the throttle body, thats probably why it blew. i will put it farther down the intake.
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Old May 10, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zcnos &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my nozzle was right at the throttle body, thats probably why it blew. i will put it farther down the intake.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You have found the problem. Put it at 18" and you won't have a problem again.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 02:46 PM
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The directions on installation states that its best at 6 inches from the throttle body. And the reason why Dry is not safe is because the distribution of NOS is not even to all the Cylinders. Cylinder 1 could get like 50% of it and Cylinder 2 gets 25% etc. So things start to go wrong like scortched valves in Cylinder 1 due to it running lean in that cylinder. Take it from me it happened to me. I blew a hole through the valve on a dry kit at 50shot. It was on a b16 motor. So make sure there is plenty of fuel. to compensate for mainly the first cylinder.
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Old May 27, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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i put my fogger about 18" down the intake. its closer to the air filter. fuel pressure spikes to 48-50psi with the dry kit too.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:40 AM
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Wow 18 inches thats a little far. You wont get as much power that far away. try it at like 6-9inches. and do you fell a bog when on the juice out the hole? 48-50 psi of fuel is a little high too but thats safe though. not as much power if fuel was at like 42 psi. thats what i was running cuz the fuel regulator on the NOS system should automatically tell the ECU to send more fuel. Too much fuel doesnt make the NOS as strong.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IROSOLO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow 18 inches thats a little far. You wont get as much power that far away. try it at like 6-9inches. and do you fell a bog when on the juice out the hole? 48-50 psi of fuel is a little high too but thats safe though. not as much power if fuel was at like 42 psi. thats what i was running cuz the fuel regulator on the NOS system should automatically tell the ECU to send more fuel. Too much fuel doesnt make the NOS as strong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would you make less power having the nozzle mounted farther away? The engine will still receive the same amount of nitrous, it will have MORE time to cool the intake charge, and it will have more time to expand and evenly distribute. Forget what the directions say, mount your nozzle 12-18" from the throttle body and you won't have distribution problems and you will make MORE power. Matt Patrick (aka ZEX Man) does this same thing in his race car and he is product manager for Zex Nitrous.
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Old May 28, 2004 | 08:43 AM
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yeah , everything he said doesnt make sense
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Old May 30, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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i was told that mounting the nozzle THAT far allows the nitrous to fully phase change from a liquid state to a gaseous state. As it phase changes it also greatly increases in volume and, thus, decreases the ammount of natural air/fuel being drawn into the intake. make sense?
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Old May 31, 2004 | 06:29 PM
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at least it wont blow up like my other motor from all the nitrous going into #1 cylinder.
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Old Jun 8, 2004 | 11:39 PM
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F*ck the Zex man, what does he know. What he read that some where I experienced it. Do what u like and find out what happens.
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 07:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IROSOLO &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">F*ck the Zex man, what does he know. What he read that some where I experienced it. Do what u like and find out what happens.
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Yeah, **** the Zex Man what does he know?

He only has a D16Z6 making 480whp and will see 600+whp with his second stage of nitrous and bigger cam coming up soon. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878055

Oh, and lets not forget he was in the Top 30 fastest power-adder street FWD cars in the world. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=607396

What are your credentials, NEWB?
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Old Jun 9, 2004 | 08:10 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Yeah, **** the Zex Man what does he know?

He only has a D16Z6 making 480whp and will see 600+whp with his second stage of nitrous and bigger cam coming up soon. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=878055

Oh, and lets not forget he was in the Top 30 fastest power-adder street FWD cars in the world. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=607396

What are your credentials, NEWB? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Right on!!! Don't listen to the newb.... I read that the best location for the zex kit is actually 36" from the throttle body. Zex even sells a kit with the injection nozzle in the top of the filter. The nitros is mainly responsible for cooling the intake charge, thus creating a denser intake charge..... I'd listen to this guy RyanCivic2000, it sounds like he knows what he is talking about.

IROSOLO is the common misconception that alot of people believe. Putting the injection nozzle that close to the intake, does not allow full atomization of the NO2....

Just my 2 cents....
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