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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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well , a while back i was pushin coolant into my overflow tank causing overheating problems...replaced the headgasket and studs , fixed it...now a month later itsdoin it again!!! i checked the torque on the arp studs , and they are fine , i couldnt have blown a cometic turbo headgasket i havent boosted more than 10 lbs.....what can it be!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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sounds like a blown head gasket or a bad radiator cap. if the block has floating sleeves or bores IE open deck even with posting its entirely possiable the gasket went bad.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 08:44 PM
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When was the last time the block was decked/head resurfaced?
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 09:06 PM
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never , but it just randomly started doing it , i didnt overheat it , didnt overboost it or anything.
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Old Mar 6, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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mine starting doing the same thing, turns out one of my head studs pulled out of the block under high boost, blew head gasket. Would only overheat when I nailed it. Now I have to send the block off to get the stud hole fixed. O well time to sleeve it anyway.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 02:54 AM
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i rechecked my headstuds and they were all torqued , i dont get it!
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 03:48 AM
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did you have the head checked to see if it was warped?
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 06:02 AM
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Either a warped mating surface or a crack in the head/block if the head was installed properly to the block...
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 02:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by speedworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you have the head checked to see if it was warped?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i didnt check to see if it was warped no.....but what i dont understand is that it was fine for a long time, then just started out of the blue
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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my problem was the same as yours. i changed my headgasket like 3 times until i finally sent it to the machine shop. told me my head was warped, now, no problems at all. check it out.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:07 PM
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sheeeeeeeit
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 07:50 PM
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I'd also use a stock Honda HG, they seem to work out alot more for people than the Cometic ones do. Golden Eagle has OEM HG's in any bore size.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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it was fine for a long time , then out of ******* nowhere!!! i dont get it.....
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 08:26 PM
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Im going to explain your problem.

The head or block mating surface is not flat.

Fix it when you pull the motor apart again.

simple

you could have blown the headgasket by going lean, or by going too rich!
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 08:58 PM
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damn this ******* sucks..... to check for warpage do i just use a strait edge?
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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BTW in case you weren't aware already. Aluminum blocks tend to warp wth age, and abuse. The older Honda's were notorious for this sort of thing. Especially the D15A3's.
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:16 PM
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mill the head and block cuase you got a blown head gasket
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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Straight edge and feeler gauge is all you need, although I forget what thickness is within spec.

Like this...
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Old Mar 7, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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thanks....

and to get the head resurfaced....how lond does it take , and can they do it with the valvetrain in??? how much is it usually to do . and what tools do they use , cause i have acess to alot of tools maybe i can do it
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 03:32 AM
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Just curious if you have a block gaurd in your block. Cause i have had the same problems in the past. when i replaced the gasket i couldnt even tell where it was blown, but a new one fixed the problem. I think mine is warping just enough for it to seep because of inadequate cooling at top of sleeves and head. Damn block gaurd sack of FK^%$#%^ing S#$T. This will be my sixth time pulling the head on my car. But i doesnt top my 9 tranny pulls.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:12 AM
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Just outta curiosity, how do you know its not your tune? or a injector that isn't flowing as good as the rest? low boost level means nothing if it wasn't tuned properly. I am surprised knowbody has chimed in on that yet. Just giving you another view. Good luck.
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Old Mar 8, 2004 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks....

and to get the head resurfaced....how lond does it take , and can they do it with the valvetrain in??? how much is it usually to do . and what tools do they use , cause i have acess to alot of tools maybe i can do it</TD></TR></TABLE>

Whenever I pull apart a motor I bring it to the machine shop so they can check to see if it is true. It's just not worth ****** around with. It only costs like $15-$25 to get it resurfaced (kind of like a flywheel). They should be able to do it with the drivetrain in it also, just make sure

When you first put the head back together, the gasket was most likely kind of filling that gap even though the head wasn't tight against the block and then it just let go. Good luck!
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