I'm looking for a bit of help from some people that have been there and done that with the CS2 setup. I already placed my order and have had several back and fourths with Jeff. (Jeff has been most helpful!!!) However, after reading many posts, and viewing may pictures, I have some questions I want to see if anyone has any experience with.

I decided to get a new coilover setup this year. I had all intentions of getting the Yonaka setup to be honest due to budget. However, after reading the many positive things here I went with the Progress CS2. Could anyone provide me a bit of guidance on the best choice for my application? (yes I read the Q&A in the Progress thread. although very informative, I didn't see anything about swapped cars)

Car - 1996 Honda Civic CX
Motor - B18B (stock LS)
Transmission - 5 Speed LS
Location - Pennsylvania
Driven - April - November (this car has not seen the PA salt for the last 12 years)
Miles Driven - Approximately 150 miles per week
Budget - Around $600.00 (these fit the budget as only a few dollars more shipped)
Optimum Ride Height - I'm currently running Tein Stech springs on factory struts on 15" OEM Honda Civic SI wheels. I measured from the center cap to my fender and 11 1/2" seems to put the top of my tire right at fender level. I'm not looking to tuck tire but do want zero wheel gap. These seems to come close with my rough tape measure measurements.
Notes: I do not go to any track. This is my daily driver / summer / fun car. I do however like to get into the twisties now and then or push into an exit ramp. I at times have an additional 70lbs in the hatch due to audio equipment.

I read the following thread from user "Libertariat" which was most helpful. This is what actually turned me to CS2s and this thread. (found below)

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/click-here-all-you-curious-about-suspension-setups-their-costs-reliability-2967499/

I searched every post this user made in this thread before reaching out with my questions. Below are some of the quoted posts. (I did try to reach out to him via PM - however, it appears he hasn't logged in for a while)

In the following quote he mentions that you shouldn't purchase suspension based on the added engine weight.

This post also mentions how the engine weight shouldn't be the deciding factor on which spring rate to choose.

However, in the next post he mentions the front 350s feel soft.

Here he mentions his center cap to fender measurements.

Lastly, a few photos of his car. Civic Hatchback line mine, with the added weight up front due to the swapped motor, and the stance is almost exactly what I'm looking for.

I'm putting all this together to get feedback on if I should stick to the 350/350 setup I ordered, or if I should change to the 450/350 setup due to the B18B motor and the stance I'm after. I'm also not sure if the front spring rate has a lot to do with ride quality or not. Jeff at Progress has been super helpful and willing to let me change my purchased spring rate if necessary.

I also wanted to compile all my research into one post as it might help someone else moving forward. Therefore, it's in one easy to find thread. I'm also going to PM this post to Libertariat so he can reply if he'd like.

Thanks in advance everyone!

 

You can achieve the look you are after on any spring rate, these coilovers are adjustable. So you can change the height very easily.

350 on all four corners should be fine. You won't notice the difference in the engine weight. I went from a D15B1 to a turbo B16A and the weight didn't phase me at all. Complete driver noob, so I agree that seat time and experience is more important.

Front suspension spring rates effect ride quality very much. Stiffer is better for going lower. I think you'll be fine at 350 or 450. I know my car is about 500 lbs lighter though. So I can't say for sure which you should go with.

 

I decided to go 450 front and 350 rear. I'll keep this thread open for further discussion.

 

Good choice!

 

Agreed! I see no reason to keep the thread open though. You will probably enjoy the crap outta them and swear by those rates before long. Trust me

 

Glad to see this thread well put together..I'm going to be hopefully picking up the Progress CS II Coils within1-2 months.. Tried to do it last year, but had other projects to tend to. I personally I'm probably going witht the 350F/350R and pairing it up with a 22mm ITR Rear Sway Bar + ASR Subrame Brace to do it right. Question for you, do you also have LCA's or using your stockers? Let us know how you like the setup once you get it installed.

 

350/350 was great for a dd but once I started auto-x'ing, I upgraded the back to 450. This improved the rear body roll and handling. 21mm ex swaybar on front 24mm ASR swaybar in rear. This car oversteers!!!
205/50/15 z1 starspecs for streets. 205/50/15 Hoosier R6's at the track.

 

For people reading this, with the spring lengths offered by Progress a big drop can be kind of hard to achieve on the high rate springs. I would think this could be particularly true in a lightweight Civic hatch. I'm curious to see if the OP was able to get the desired ride height.

 

^I can easily go another 1" and it rides fine but I prefer not having to worry about road conditions much. lower

And personally I would put the 350's on the front and the 450's on the rear.

 

Sorry I didn't update this yet. I got everything on. However, I didn't get a chance to adjust the car height yet. Right now it's tucking tire about an inch on all four wheels. This is so not what I'm going for. However, driving it like this for almost a week I have had no problems with the suspension. (the front clip catching the road is another story)

So to answer your question, yes you can get the progress coilovers to go low. Although not recommended - my pig is low. (until this weekend!) I also have at least another inch to go lower, probably two to be honest.

I'll post back when I get the car raised.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/showpo...postcount=2895

 

Your hatch looks good
do you have camber kits on? If not, do you plan on?

 

No camber kit. I did the bolt and washer trick to the rears 10 years ago when I installed my Tein springs. I have no plans on installing camber kits. I'll get my camber checked, my toe aligned, and as long as I'm under -3.5 camber up front I'm going to let it go. More information on camber and the myth on camber kits below.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/suspension-brakes-54/no-you-do-not-need-camber-kits-2614449/