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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 11:12 AM
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Alright, before anyone tells me to use the search function or Google, I already did. My problem is that I do not EXACTLY understand how to CORRECTLY route my SEALED catch can setup. Basically, I have a GSR block, B16 head, and need to know how to properly put my catch can setup together. If someone can draw me a diagram of some sort, or post pics, or hell, even explain, I would greatly appreciate it. I was going to DIY baffle my can, but I've read that it isn't necessary for sealed setups, blah blah blah. I'd also like to run it back into my oil pan eventually. BTW, what hoses and fittings do most people do. I have a hard time dishing out $100 on braided hoses and fittings.

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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 02:00 PM
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Before you worry about plumbing it, I would say that the locations of the fittings pretty much make that useless. How will it ever fill up past the lowest fitting?

Most catch cans like that come with nipple hose fittings on them so you don't have to use threaded fittings. You really don't have the right can for what you want to do.

You can buy fittings to thread into freeze plugs on the back of the block and allow the block to vent to the can from there or you can add additional fittings to the valve cover (thats what I did).

Mine isn't drainback, but you would have a fitting on the bottom of the can and either drain it back to the pan, or back to one of the fittings I mentioned on the back of the block. (You have 14mm allen plugs in those locations now).

Edit: forgot to mention that if you're running the sealed setup you'll have to run one of the lines to the pcv valve then to a manifold vacuum source.

Summary: So one to a vacuum source with a pcv inline, one on the bottom to drain back and one or two lines to feed pressure to the catch can.
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 02:52 PM
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I think a vented catch can might be a better option than a sealed catch can...The idea is to vent the crankcase pressures/vapor and keep the crankcase under as little pressure as possible, Im not sure if a sealed one would do that...

But anyways, most kits use the 2 fittings on the back of the block. like this one...
http://theoldone.com/components/breather/
(The 2 block fittings are on the left)
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 06:33 PM
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Old Apr 8, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 09:30 AM
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I can easily add a breather if necessary... But I read that sealed cans are better, because they catch vapors and turn them into oil rather than venting them into the air. I was going to run to the back of the block, but I see people running to the valve cover, lol I'm confused. And nice diagram, but I still don't get which way I SHOULD run my setup.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 10:01 AM
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You can run either. Its up to you
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 10:27 AM
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Alrighty, well it seems as though back of the block would work better?
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:19 PM
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I ran a Endyn Breather setup on my built B20 VTEC and I have nothing to complain about. I would either run that, or a setup venting the two locations from the back of the block.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 12:37 PM
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The nipples on the back of the block, is the only true way to run a catch can..

You didn't search hard enough, search the force induction forum, for the terms "catch can"...there's a entire write up and list of parts you'll need from honda to get.
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 01:46 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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I did search... And all I got was confusion... lol. But back of the block it is...
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Old Apr 11, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by bmxkills
Alrighty, well it seems as though back of the block would work better?
I vent the back of my block with a vented catch can. Works great and doesnt seem to burn a lick of oil between changes. I def noticed a little more oil consumption before I added this...

Id try this first and if you still need more crankcase ventilation, add ports on the VC like alot of people do. When I was researching this, it seemed there were about equal amounts of people preferring each way...

On a side note...Porsche found a small amount(like 4-6 IIRC) of hp by notching the bottom of the cylinder sleeves to allow the cylinders pressure help "push" up the adjacent cylinder on some of its older 968/944 blocks.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:34 PM
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Thanks Pyro, I'm glad I'm not the only one! Haha, yeah, I burn a bit of oil when I get on it, and I KNOW my rings aren't bad, at well over 260 psi per cylinder. I will let you guys know after I get it put on this weekend, thanks for the help. And yes I heard a small amount of power will be increased.
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