Are Block Girldes Needed for high boost applications?

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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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I was curious about Block Girdles and if there really necessary i was considering ordering one but wanted to get some feedback first before i do. so is it a waste of money or worth it. Also has anyone had any issues with Golden Eagle sleeves sinking.?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:11 AM
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They really aren't that necessary depending upon power goals. GE sleeves are just fine and are a good company. the other thread you're seeing is from an individual who either a) doesn't have GE sleeves, and thinks he does, or b) did get a sunk sleeve (1 in a million shot) and hasn't called GE to see if it is indeed a problem.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by TheShodan
They really aren't that necessary depending upon power goals. GE sleeves are just fine and are a good company. the other thread you're seeing is from an individual who either a) doesn't have GE sleeves, and thinks he does, or b) did get a sunk sleeve (1 in a million shot) and hasn't called GE to see if it is indeed a problem.
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 01:14 PM
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Sweet alot of people say it stabalizes the bottom of the block. im looking to run about 600 hp +
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 01:27 PM
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its like a condom you use it just in cause sometimg goes wrong
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by redflaredcrx90
its like a condom you use it just in cause sometimg goes wrong
so im guessing that block sleeving is like birth control?
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Old Nov 25, 2008 | 02:05 PM
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You will be fine without it. I was told by a shop once that main caps get all messed up once you start running over 400whp, but I think they are just full of **** and they just messed up putting the engine together. I guess you can call it extra protection, but I'm too cheap to spend it on that.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 09:40 AM
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you can buy ARP mainstuds for $80 so yes it is cheap protection and another piece of mind. i have never seen main bolts get messed up though from high HP.
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Old Nov 26, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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there right you dont need to have one but i you can get you hand on one use it
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 12:23 PM
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Mainstuds and/or a Girdle will also require you to align hone the block as well.

I had a really strange issue with my old block, ERL 5-Point Girdle and 1/2" studs up top, combine that with a really big surprise on the machining side of things, I ended up with a big headache.

We're going to test our luck with the stock GSR girdle, I know plenty not running an aftermarket girdle and all have great success.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 03:24 PM
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Its not needed to Bore and Hone if yuo use a GSR Block Girdle it is a direct bolt in and OEM thats the best part at least is what i was told. the other thing is you will need a GSR pan and GSR pick up and along with a windage plate.
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Old Nov 27, 2008 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Boostinb20!
Its not needed to Bore and Hone if yuo use a GSR Block Girdle it is a direct bolt in and OEM thats the best part at least is what i was told. the other thing is you will need a GSR pan and GSR pick up and along with a windage plate.
You would still need to do a line bore since you would be using caps that didn't come with that block. Stock bolts are fine and you dont need a girdle for that power level.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 04:43 AM
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So at what power level is this recommended at ? Im not looking to see about 650-700 HP on this motor.
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Old Nov 28, 2008 | 08:30 AM
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I wouldnt even bother putting one in, no matter what the power level..

They will probably do more harm then good, Id rather the extra space for cooling...
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