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Clutch/Transmission problem on B16 Del Sol

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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 01:04 PM
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Default Clutch/Transmission problem on B16 Del Sol

I went away for spring break, and when I got back, my car was giving me a bunch of trouble with shifting. Its a 1994 del Sol VTEC (B16A3), manual. The symptoms I've noticed:

* It's very hard shifting, almost like the synchros are gone. I can shift mostly okay as long as I'm going slower than ~30 MPH, but any faster and I have to rev-match pretty perfectly to avoid grinds. This holds for any gear I try to shift into at that speed.

* The clutch seems to chatter when I start moving, both in reverse and first gears.

* Occasionally, when I'm stopped in gear with the clutch out, the car will jerk, like I let the clutch in and then back out really quickly.

None of these happened before break. I thought that the hard shifting might be caused by bad tranny fluid. It's got "El Cheapo" 10w-30 in there right now, I have Honda MTF for it but I've been waiting until I can find an LS 5th to swap in to change the fluid. And the other symptoms wouldn't have anything to do with the fluid as far as I can tell.

Anyone have similar problems before?
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 01:22 PM
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Default Re: Clutch/Transmission problem on B16 Del Sol (fdavie)

sounds like your clutch to me i just changed one out in a 88 celica did the same thing till the springs on his disk shattered then he had no clutch.. just get a new clutch for it and you should be ok
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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same thing happened to me with the same exact car! Is yours red too cause that'd be kinda weird!

Anywho, i replaced the clutch, the slave and a part of the clutch hardline. My clutch had broken where the springs are which made them loose so i could not shift at all.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 05:33 PM
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Default Re: Clutch/Transmission problem on B16 Del Sol (DeadEnd9009)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DeadEnd9009 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">same thing happened to me with the same exact car! Is yours red too cause that'd be kinda weird!

Anywho, i replaced the clutch, the slave and a part of the clutch hardline. My clutch had broken where the springs are which made them loose so i could not shift at all.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yup, its a Red sol.... weird.

I was hoping it wasn't the clutch... I just replaced the clutch on the 92 Accord I'm selling.... didn't want to do a Clutch job again so soon . Oh well, at least it'll give me a decent chance to install an LS 5th.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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make it easier on yourself by taking out the intermediate shaft from the get go...took me 5 hrs to put it back on and 30 seconds after i had taken that thing off

Thats why next time i rip it apart again i'll be able to do it in no time.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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not to say your clutch is not bad also. but make sure to check your mounts especially that rear one. A blown rear mount, would cause jerky movement, and hard shifting.
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Old Apr 4, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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also make sure you have no leaks and have proper fluid level in the reservoir, before you start tearing everything apart.
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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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Thanks for the pointers... I had a friend look at the car and he showed me that the clutch mc was leaking pretty bad. I didn't realize you had to look under the dash for that one... didn't see any leak from the firewall side so i though it was fine

Ordered, replaced, and it's shifting just fine again... hope I didn't take too much life off the clutch while it was borked.
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