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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 08:54 PM
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hey, im putting on a d16y8 on my d15b8. my question is will my dizzy work on the newer head or do i have to get a new dizzy? and will it fit properly.
i also have to get a new timing belt right?
i guess any thing that input will help me out. thanks.


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Old Jun 5, 2006 | 10:25 PM
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I think you need the D16 dizzy but I am not sure.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 12:00 AM
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ahhh, thats a d16z6. i know the dizzy is interchangeable between th e y8 and the z6. ive heard that i need a new one and i've also heard that i can use the old one. which one is it???????
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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you can use your b7 dizzy with a b7/y8 mini-me. If you were using a z6 head, you'd need a new dizzy, or you'd need to modify yours. The bolt patterns for the d16z6, d16z1, and d15b dizzy's are the same. Every other dizzy from 92-00 is interchangable - just not these 3. You'll need a (new) y8 timing belt for your setup.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:35 PM
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what about d16y8 head on a d15b8 not a b7. can i still use my old dizzy?
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 08:39 PM
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I'm pretty sure, but don't quote me. Even if the mounting brackets don't match up, you can still use the distributor with some modification. I have a b7 dizzy on my b7/z6 mini-me, and it works fine. I just had to spend about 2 hours hacking up the frame...
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 10:58 PM
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Why not just pull the old one off the old head when you take it off. If it doesn't line up jump in a friends car and go get a different one. If it does then put it on and keep going.
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Old Jun 6, 2006 | 11:05 PM
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thats a good point but if i were to buy a new one that would cost me money, which i dont have right now. so i wanna make sure my old one works before i go ahead with the mini me swap.
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Old Jun 7, 2006 | 09:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _RedRiceR_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats a good point but if i were to buy a new one that would cost me money, which i dont have right now. so i wanna make sure my old one works before i go ahead with the mini me swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know how you feel, I was in almost the same position, except I knew mine wouldn't line up. If this is your daily driver, I'd say get another distributor for insurance, and if you don't need it, sell it. You might loose some money, but at least the car works. If you have another car, try yours and if it doens't work, you can either try to modify it or buy another one. I'll gladly show you pictures of my dizzy if you go my route. Sorry I couldn't be of more help - good luck with the swap.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 12:28 AM
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thanks for the input but did u do a d16y8 or a z6 on a d15b8?
and ill let u know how the swap works out.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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as far as i know if u use a 1.5 block and a 1.6 head the timing belt will not fit so i think u will need a adjustable cam gear.. i think ur dizzy will work but u might have to modify the bracket a lil..
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 01:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by projectek123 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as far as i know if u use a 1.5 block and a 1.6 head the timing belt will not fit so i think u will need a adjustable cam gear.. i think ur dizzy will work but u might have to modify the bracket a lil..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You dont need a adjustable cam gear...you have to use the d16z6/y8 timing belt...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by _RedRiceR_ &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ahhh, thats a d16z6. i know the dizzy is interchangeable between th e y8 and the z6. ive heard that i need a new one and i've also heard that i can use the old one. which one is it???????</TD></TR></TABLE>

You wont be able to use a z6 dizzy on the y8 head...im pretty sure your B8 dizzy will work
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ..::ferio::.. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You dont need a adjustable cam gear...you have to use the d16z6/y8 timing belt...</TD></TR></TABLE>
yes, you do need that timing belt, but it will be 1/2 a tooth off (4.75 degrees), which means you SHOULD get an adjustable gear. I'm sure you can live without one, but I wouldn't recommend it. They're worth it in the end, since you need to play around with valve timing for proper tuning. Also, I did this on a d15b7, not a b8, but it's basically the same procedure.
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:35 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ddd4114 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yes, you do need that timing belt, but it will be 1/2 a tooth off (4.75 degrees), which means you SHOULD get an adjustable gear. I'm sure you can live without one, but I wouldn't recommend it. They're worth it in the end, since you need to play around with valve timing for proper tuning. Also, I did this on a d15b7, not a b8, but it's basically the same procedure.</TD></TR></TABLE>


i did a Minimee with a B8 block with a Y8 head...NO ADJUSTABLE CAM GEAR NEEDED...
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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ..::ferio::.. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i did a Minimee with a B8 block with a Y8 head...NO ADJUSTABLE CAM GEAR NEEDED...</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, I forgot it was a y8 head. Mine was with a z6 head, which resulted in the 1/2 tooth off situation. If you're using a d15 block with a y8 head, the y8 cam gear will match up perfectly; sorry for the confusion. However, an adjustable cam gear is still a good investment with any mini-me. I could technically have used a z6 gear with my setup, and it would've worked, just not nearly at it's full potential.
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