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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 03:37 PM
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Smaller turbo for higher pressure, yes, but you have to make sure that it's "smaller" in the right places. (which means, no 300 lbs/ft of torque on a B16 with any rpm to work with.) GT2860RS is a bit too small for his transmission and altitude. I'd rather go for a slightly more efficient gas turbine map than worry about the compressor so much. But, I've already discussed this with him. Mjalaly now has to perform the calculations he feels best represent him at this point.
Correct. I.probably have the option to try a few turbos starting with the gtx3076r (maybe the gtx2876r too) which is big but It will give me a good idea on a few things in relationship to what the cars max power should be. Then I can buy something smaller or different based on what I feel is the best.

Hell, I may want 500whp... who knows at this point.
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Old Jul 7, 2016 | 04:18 PM
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 12:07 PM
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Do you guys have any thoughts on running a gt3076r (I can get a good deal on this one I think) or a gtx2863r? Still trying to shoot for 400whp but keeping the lag as small as possible.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 02:23 PM
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Gt 3071R, Gtx 3071R or STC Hunter.
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Old Jul 22, 2016 | 10:31 PM
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Well the gt28 will spool quicker if that's what your asking. Gt30s can break into the 500s without sacrificing much in spool however, but I would imagine the gt28 would make a larger difference if you stayed 1.6
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but I would imagine the gt28 would make a larger difference if you stayed 1.6
agreed not so sure it will do the 400hp hes asking for tho
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 07:28 AM
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agreed not so sure it will do the 400hp hes asking for tho
mabye the 67 or 71r
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 09:12 AM
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mabye the 67 or 71r
Thanks, I assume you mean a gt2867 or 71 correct? Maybe a gtx2860...
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 11:22 AM
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I already made my suggestions and why in a lengthy email correspondence based upon what he's asking for regarding characteristics in both Garrett & BW EFR line that would relatively fit in the same location as his old turbo weeks ago. The question was if he was staying B16 or not. He can refer to that for reference and share if he chooses.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:08 PM
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I already made my suggestions and why in a lengthy email correspondence based upon what he's asking for regarding characteristics in both Garrett & BW EFR line that would relatively fit in the same location as his old turbo weeks ago. The question was if he was staying B16 or not. He can refer to that for reference and share if he chooses.
Regardless, other people's expierences would be appreciated. Just looking for some different feedback.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Mjalaly
Regardless, other people's expierences would be appreciated. Just looking for some different feedback.
I wrote that because several people have already tagged me about turbo suggestions for this particular thread. It wasn't because of the idea that you believed that I wanted to be the only opinion you'd look at. Regardless of my statements, my ego isn't that big. :-)

Carry on, sir.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 06:01 PM
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Your ego is fine and deserved

It just seems like there are a few turbos that will work fine so I am just trying to get a feel from others.
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 06:53 PM
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Not our engines hut there is really good info here

GTX2867R or GTX3067R T3 flanged ? - Turbobricks Forums
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Old Jul 23, 2016 | 10:15 PM
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No worries....Yep. Read that long email again, from over a month ago. Had the same info there regarding the differences between the two. :-)
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Dont know how i missed this thread and yes i know that you shouldnt base turbos off dynos but man, that would be perfect in my car!

https://honda-tech.com/forums/forced...turbo-3077316/

I think with a similar turbo, intercooler core change, boost control tuning and e85 (i guess this wont be an issue with my foam unless i let it sit for a while, i will also need to run dual maps in hondata ) i should be able to do similar. But who knows!

Or save quite a bit of money going gt2871r with a t3/4 bolt... I have to talk with the wife

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If you're trying to stay GT28 series and get closer to that 360whp+ I wouldn't bother with the GT2871R. There's no "money" savings anymore, you're long past that. It's like Yoda; "Do, or do not, there is no try" .
Those previous e-mails show which ones to narrow down to. At this rate, I wouldn't worry about racing on July 31st. It's just one race, you're not sponsored or getting any prize money. Just show some patience so you can get the right equipment and a solid tune this time around. Races come and go.
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If you're trying to stay GT28 series and get closer to that 360whp+ I wouldn't bother with the GT2871R. There's no "money" savings anymore, you're long past that. It's like Yoda; "Do, or do not, there is no try" .
Those previous e-mails show which ones to narrow down to. At this rate, I wouldn't worry about racing on July 31st. It's just one race, you're not sponsored or getting any prize money. Just show some patience so you can get the right equipment and a solid tune this time around. Races come and go.
Kind of... i have a few investors that want me to build and head a new motorsports shop in new jersey so getting someone (better driver than me) on the track with my car soon is critical. flying out there every month isnt enough, they want to see the engineering in action if i am to oversee the building of their 2 rallycross cars and team. I have already lost a month.

I will be flying out there again the second weekend in august to talk some more.

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Understood.. So you're at a point where you'll be deciding quickly now, then, yeah? No more rhetoric, no more over over-analysis.. Just done & done
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Understood.. So you're at a point where you'll be deciding quickly now, then, yeah? No more rhetoric, no more over over-analysis.. Just done & done
Yeah, I have a few days but close for sure. Probably the gtx2867r with the .63 t3 4 bolt housing. I am looking at the hemni and apt turbo websites but I am not seeing a t04b option if i want to go that route.

I am pretty sure I will be doing the b16 block (but my tunner is also building the stroke crank version) with my gsr head and cams using the 9.4 compression pistons and log mani.
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Does anyone know where to find a good source of intercooler end tanks? More exact, an 8 x 3 end tank?
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Old Jul 25, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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yeah i looked there. they have one cast one and it isnt the right config. I have already looked at Hemni and atp as well.
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Old Sep 15, 2016 | 11:47 AM
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So after 3 months i have an engine.. its built with a 84mm stroke and custom 10:1 pistons. Not sure which turbo would be best for this build now with the stroke and higher compression. I'm looking.






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Should behave nicely. I would stick to 28R family size.
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