Valjoker

Ok, replaced the suspension on my 95 ls with 98 JDM spec ITR suspension. Also have replaced rotors with brembo slotted+drilled on all 4 wheels, performance pads, steel braided lines and stepped up to a 1" master cyl+booster. brakes have been weak ever since. I have to use the e brake to stop. have bled the system twice, incuding the ABS, no leaks apparent. does anyone have a clue as to whats wrong w/ my brakes?

Also whats the deal w/ energy suspension not making a bushing kit for ITR?

10secwantabe

Sounds like the linkage is not depressing the master cylinder completely or the portioning valve has air in it.

kpop

"HELP! Brake problem w/ ITR 5-lug suspension swap"

I just finished doing my 5 lug swap and was trying to figure out why my brakes arent as sensitive as they once were before the swap. Bled the system twice and still not like it was.

Are they any upgrades to the MC or the brake booster needed when swaping to itr brake system??

btw:swap went into 2000 Civic em1
Thanks guys

kpop

bump

Stoich EG2

explain your method of bleeding. be specific

kpop

started with the rear farthest from the MC the 1st rear passenger, 2nd front left, rear driver, front passenger. Pumped the brakes about 5x we probably did 5 reps on each line. The whole time adding fluid when needed. let me know thanks

Stoich EG2

did you guys pump pedal, hold, release fluid, tighten drain, then pump again?

smileycvc

Try bleeding in this order:

Rear Passenger
Rear Driver
Front Passenger
Front Driver

I know the Honda's have a diagonal system, but for some reason I was having the same problem with my GSR swap until I bled in this order. Now my breaks are much better. Just try it.

kpop

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stoich EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did you guys pump pedal, hold, release fluid, tighten drain, then pump again?</TD></TR></TABLE>

we did hold the pedal while letting out the fluid.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by smileycvc &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Try bleeding in this order:

Rear Passenger
Rear Driver
Front Passenger
Front Driver

I know the Honda's have a diagonal system, but for some reason I was having the same problem with my GSR swap until I bled in this order. Now my breaks are much better. Just try it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think my problem might be because I have to upgrade my brake Master cylinder hopefully thats it.

Stoich EG2

is there any free-play in the pedal? are you losing any brake fluid?

and no, you dont HAVE to upgrade

kpop

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stoich EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any free-play in the pedal? are you losing any brake fluid?

and no, you dont HAVE to upgrade</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is play towards the top of the pedal the brakes dont start grabbing till half way down the pedal. I also noticed when I let off the brake sometimes at a stoplight I hear this croaking noise. Im not sure if that noise was there before but it kinda sounds like the noise when I was pumping the brakes the last time we bled the system. any thoughts on that? thanks

kpop

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Stoich EG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is there any free-play in the pedal? are you losing any brake fluid?

and no, you dont HAVE to upgrade</TD></TR></TABLE>

are you sure i dont have to upgrade?? this guy says i have too
quoted by pdiggitydogg


"Youre using larger calipers than before.
Your 7/8 MC is too small...get an integra 1" or 15/16 MC (recommend the corresponding booster too)
I wrote a how-to on this swap - search for it"

Someone please confirm. Are there any pro brake bleeders out there?? My brakes suck help

Stoich EG2

i didnt know u had a 7/8 i have a 15/16 with itr calipers and they work coo. might need it

kpop

I starting playing around with the brakes once i got home i noticed when the car is off that if you keep pumping the brakes the pedal eventually gets firmer mine didnt plus it makes croaking pumping sounds. i cant think of anything else.