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Old 01-10-2019, 12:39 PM
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I unhooked my cluster to replace the lights in it. Once I put the new ledís in and hooked it up to test it, I noticed a burning smell and immediately shut it off.

The only lights that donít work on the cluster are the fuel, temp, rpm, seat belt and mph. The lights on the switches above the cluster are out (hazard aux ect.) and the ac lights are out as well.

everything works in terms of rpm, switches, ac control. Itís just the lighting thatís out.
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Old 01-10-2019, 01:53 PM
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Don't understand what you did.
Were the lights in the cluster originally LEDs or not?
Were you replacing burnt out lights?

If you replaced the lights correctly then it can only be due to having the wiring extended that is causing issues
Still check out the fuses (all of them, use a test light)
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I replaced the originals with LED's once I tested it to see if they all worked, I noticed the burning smell. The lights weren't burnt out, they were just very dim.
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Originally Posted by The94delslow View Post
I noticed a burning smell and immediately shut it off.
Where there's fire, there's smoke.
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no smoke or fire, I drove it last night with a small led light tapped and pointed at the spedo lmao
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flip the 194 holder 180 and put it back in.
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flip the 194 holder 180 and put it back in.
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whats that lol as you saw by some of my other posts Iím not too car savvy >.<
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Old 01-11-2019, 10:25 AM
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194 is the bulb part number. Very commonly used.
180 means to flip the socket around, thinking is the socket's polarity might have something to do with it

My only thought now is to check the cluster with all the lights on
Or, have one on at a time.
Maybe because it was new that it had a film on them???
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avisitor I put all the old bulbs back in. im starting to think its a wiring issue if it made all the lights on the temp control, switches above cluster and only certain cluster lights go out after I smelt burning :/

I mean the car is 25 years old and pulling on the old cold wires was not a good idea lol
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avisitor I put all the old bulbs back in. im starting to think its a wiring issue if it made all the lights on the temp control, switches above cluster and only certain cluster lights go out after I smelt burning :/

I mean the car is 25 years old and pulling on the old cold wires was not a good idea lol
Yeah, agreed. Sometimes doing stuff on very old cars just causes more problems.
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no smoke or fire
The burning smell indicated a short to ground in a wire or the cluster printed circuit board (PCB), likely caused by installation of the LEDs. A short to ground leads to high amperage through and heating of the affected wire or PCB. Look for a wire with melted insulation or melted PCB.

What car? 94 Del Sol?
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The burning smell indicated a short to ground in a wire or the cluster printed circuit board (PCB), likely caused by installation of the LEDs. A short to ground leads to high amperage through and heating of the affected wire or PCB. Look for a wire with melted insulation or melted PCB.

What car? 94 Del Sol?
yeah the 94 sol. it might be both. I was on a facebook group and ironically some guy is going through the exact thing im going through with the same exact issues. He said he replaced the wire harness which turned all the switch lights back on but his cluster is still out.

Crazy how replacing a dang light bulb caused all this smh
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So I figured out the issue. If anyone ever has to remove the control switch panel, make sure that the two green connecters for the hazard light and the rear defroster are plugged into the correct spot. One of them has 6 prongs while the other has 5.

If you put them in wrong, it will short out the cluster. Also the lights on the control switches and temperate control will not turn on. smh
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