TravisCadello

when i put my new harmonic balancer on the timing belt seems to be moving kinda off the pulleys.

Only thing i can think of is that circle thing that goes before the harmonic balancer and after the timming gear i didn't put back cause it wouldn't go back on.

sde780

is it tensioned properly?

shifty35

You failed to reinstall the *timing belt guide* and you are wondering why your timing belt is coming off?

TravisCadello

is that what it is? probably is but it would go on good but the woodruff key that holds the big pulley wouldn't go on with the "guide' on. why would that be?

NVturbo

You should have lined up the woodruff key with the flat part exposed. If you turn it around the other way, it will not work and jam up the crank pulley. Those timing belt guides are there for a reason. You should not have taken them off.

lceah

I agree. Put back and follow the instructions exactly. Timing belt is very important...

TravisCadello

dam, i drove it 20 miles already and it backs off like a milimeter but i can notice its not on the whole cam gear. i just push it back on more.

I did try it both way but the guide didn't have any way to let the woodruff key through. maybe ill cut a little whole for it to go through. I'm 10 miles away from the shop will it be Ok to drive it their? or will it fall off?

lceah

It's risky to drive the car like this...IMO.

Up to you though because you are the one who can actually see/hear it.

NVturbo

Uhmmm...the guides have nothing to do with the spacing of the woodruff key.
Here's the sequence when installing a timing belt:
1. timing belt guide ) timing belt ( timing belt guide .....woodruff key <---crank pulley.

Dangousity

screw the shop do it beside the road if you have too, lol why mess up a new head?

TravisCadello

Yea i know, that would suck. But its my Shop pretty much. we do maintance and Body work their.

TravisCadello

And yes, the guide DOES have something to do with the key. why when i did exactly what you said the woodruff key only went in half way and stopped at the belt guide?

I think I'm best off using a Y8 Block timming gear i dont need a guide then cause its like built in right?

TravisCadello

unless i was using the wrong belt guide then its not gunna work. because it should have like a whole where the guide will let the key through.


Can i use the y8 blocks timing gear?

IhateworkingoncaRs

Doesn't the guide go behind the timing belt cover? It should not mess with the spacing of the key at all.

TravisCadello

i guess not, I'm gunna have to double check it tomorrow.


Are the y8 block and b7 blocks timming gears different or not?

Former User

Travis, I know you now have a service manual. Avoid deviating at all from what is recommended in the manual, and you'll save yourself from suffering a lot of grief.

EGhatch87

what kind of motor is it?

sde780

Dude, the timing belt guide will make the key not fit in perfectly. This happened to mine too. Just put it in, and make sure it's the right side. I figured it out by looking at where it was a little worn off, that was the side facing the timing belt. Then put the key in, then the crank pulley.

The key won't fit as well, but it still fits fine. I'm doing this on a d15b2