marcusgnf

so blew my motor up when it was turbo so, i had to go get a bottom end for it due to a spun rod bearing(motor is a y8) everything went smooth, new belts ,clutch, alternator, etc but now im go to start

1 ran real rough so i shut it off and check timing marks there ok
2 went over the motor made sure everything was plugged up corectly still runs rough
3 had to change spark plug wires around becuase i thought they werent in the right firing order

after that now it wont start at all it cranks but doesnt start

i used this firing order diagram http://www.we-todd-did-racing....k1NDE

Shot of the motor



any help would be greatly aprreciated


EDIT: ran some test and found out the car isnt getting spark, now im just trying to figure out what could have changed in the last 1/2 hour to make it do this

EDIT:
i dont wanna do this nor do i have the cash for it but if i cant get this thing fixed soon ima have to tow it to a shop because i need this car running pretty soon, stil no suggestions


1 has spark ( weak)

2 cranks but doesnt start ( started before but ran like crap could of been because of firing order)

3 Not a fuel problem because i have pressure at the fuel rail and can hear fuel pump prime

4 when i try to start the car I hear a clicking sound in the passenger side area, could be coming from ECU, main relay, or fuse box under hood

Modified by marcusgnf at 7:01 PM 5/10/2007


Modified by marcusgnf at 3:22 AM 5/13/2007

marcusgnf

update: car starts again but runs rough and dies, only getting spark to cylinders #3,#4

Civichx1998

Looking at the valve cover

4-3-2-1


looking at dist....

3 4
1 2

Thats the way ive always know it... I think the picture you have from that site is wrong..

marcusgnf

ok ill try it out tomorrow otherwise im going to try getting another distributor, i cant find any other reason why it would only spark on two cylinders

littleredcivic

check wires with a meter, check cap condition, switch wires around to troubleshoot by process of elimination.

Luserkid

marcusgnf

^^^yeah thats how their routed

marcusgnf

checked cap and rotor and they look pretty new

marcusgnf

got spark now but still no start, car makes this weird clicking sound by the ECU or Fuse box

zerovandez

iTrader: (1)

Dude, I think you got the wires in the wrong spots. From dizzy it should be

34
12

That picture has it:

13
24

If you have your wires like that picture, then change it.

Luserkid

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by zerovandez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dude, I think you got the wires in the wrong spots. From dizzy it should be

34
12

That picture has it:

13
24

If you have your wires like that picture, then change it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You do know that 3 and 4 need to be where the flat part of the dist. is right? Not all dist are going to be straight up. If he did it your way itll be off.

Clicking noise is main relay. If that goes then you wont be able to start your car.

marcusgnf

took a main relay off of another honda of mine still no start just clicking and cranking,

zerovandez

iTrader: (1)

Learn something new everyday!

marcusgnf

i dont wanna do this nor do i have the cash for it but if i cant get this thing fixed soon ima have to tow it to a shop because i need this car running pretty soon, stil no suggestions


1 has spark ( weak)

2 cranks but doesnt start ( started before but ran like crap could of been because of firing order)

3 Not a fuel problem because i have pressure at the fuel rail and can hear fuel pump prime

4 when i try to start the car I hear a clicking sound in the passenger side area, could be coming from ECU, main relay, or fuse box under hood

rs-r

A.)

Bring these two to your nearest part's store to have them test check to see if they are still good or bad
-alter
-starter


B.)

If I'm right it might be your <U>battery</U>.
if those (alternator and starter) are good and with that...clicking noise from your fuse or reley/s under the driver dash.

Your battery is low and doesn't have enough voltage to pump up some juice.


C.) If this isn't any help then

FlatBrokeHatch

Check all your grounds.

marcusgnf

well its a brand new alternator (i month old) so im pretty sure its not that, and i tried to starting it with jumper cables, and it started once but ran like crap, and then the next day did the same thing with jumer cables and it wouldnt start

as for grounds i checked them before but a second time wouldnt hurt so thats what im about to do now

trrbl1bmx

As previously mentioned your spark plug wires are in the wrong place. Here is a picture of how it should be. Whoever showed you that other firing order should be shot.

hatch96y7

look at how the dizzy is mounted on his car *** hole then delete ur statement.
the dizzy is croocked to the right.
so u need to get shot

marcusgnf

well im pretty sure i have the firing order correct now (went on autotrader and found some detailed engine photos of people with y8 engines) but yeah your both right

marcusgnf

checked grounds again and there good,

marcusgnf

bump

1992cxcivicEG

five things a gasoline engine needs to run
1. fuel
2.compression
3. spark
4. timeing
5. proper air flow


you must have a prolbem with one componet, or one or more is not working together.... think of it as team work

marcusgnf

yeah i wish it was that simple but i can pretty much say i have all those

except im not sure on spark because sometimes its there other times its not

and i havnt checked compression

Crispy

Um dude, if thats a picture of your car your firing order is --&gt;WRONG&lt;-- Which is what most everyone here is trying to tell you.