pdiggitydogg

ok...I have a cel and i cant tell if its 1 or 10
as soon as i turn the key to 'on' it lights up for a little while and then it shuts off - quickly comes back on and then doesnt go away.

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so thats a 10, right.....or 20? (i am very tired of working on the car just give me an answer w/o the bs of 'search' because yes I know what the codes mean Im just having a hard time today)

blackhatchy

i think the cel comes on when you start the car, so i think you are getting a 10.

pdiggitydogg

so start the car...not just 'on'
that doesnt do anything but a solid light...

blackhatchy

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that doesnt do anything but a solid light...

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oh yeah my bad.....doesnt it come on for a short time anyways in every civic?

pdiggitydogg

yeah...thats why im having a rough time w/ it.

so it comes on (normal) when i turn to 'on' then it turns off for less than 1 second and comes back on and stays on...doesnt do anything

Spence

Do you have a jumper wire from the ecu?

pdiggitydogg

you mean in the connector?
yeah of course

Spence

Ok
So it flashes once or it just stays on ?

pdiggitydogg

it turns off and comes right back on
does absolutely nothing other than that

ShakesTheKlown

You have to jump the ECU to get the code. If you don't have a paper clip or something similar jumping the right lines, then all it'll do is flash the CEL to let you know to check it...

If you HAVE checked it, a one is a VERY fast flash... A ten is about half a second long...

I know because I'm throwing a code 22 right now...

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=682412
^^ Invaluable.

pdiggitydogg

its been awhile since i had a cel
the 'flash' is when it shuts off, not flashes on, correct

edit**yes I know about that thread...I cant READ it...thats the problem

ShakesTheKlown

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No, the flash is each time it lights up...

Lights up for half a second, lights up for half a second, lights up twice in very quick succession = Code 22. Believe me, I know...

It'll be black for a couple seconds, then it'll do it again, over and over, until you turn off the car.

And again, the check engine light coming on without the ECU being jumped means nothing as far as diagnostics go...

pdiggitydogg

right right
mine's jumped - i have a paper clip in there right now

I'll go check it for a 4th time.....[so frustrated]

pdiggitydogg

alright...2 paperclips and my own damn custom bs later, I finally get somewhere

41
20

now the 41 I know what it is and what to do (****....)
20...what do I do?

ShakesTheKlown

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41
20

now the 41 I know what it is and what to do (****....)
20...what do I do?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd say get out the old continuity tester and check your whole damn car... But for electrical load sensor, which I know nothing about, I'd take it to a mechanic. Similar problem going down with this 89 Mustang some lady donated to my dad's Non-profit. Something in the electrical system's all fuzzy, so they've had it for like a week trying to track it down...

pdiggitydogg

yeah thats what i was thinking...there goes anything fun

ShakesTheKlown

Hey, it's saturday, have a or 12...

But think how good it'll feel to know that your car is running perfectly again...

pdiggitydogg

yes...if i could buy beer

blackhatchy

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what are you going to do? i have a code 41 also

pdiggitydogg

Im gonna drive an hour north to a junk yard and pull the primary o2 from a wrecked civic I saw there a month ago...
In the summer I'll just buy a new o2 from honda....when I can afford one...
(first I'll borrow a friends to make sure its not something else, like wiring)

I actually fixed code20...it was just a blown fuse under the dash for the alt. Stupid blown fuse...makin me freak out

ShakesTheKlown

But you feel better now, don't you?

pdiggitydogg

better because its only 1 expensive problem rather than 2 yes

Spence

41 is the heater wire is it a 4 wire o2? if so rewire that wire trust me