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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fourthgenhatchB17
No matter how much shock travel you restore on a lowered car, the rest of the car's suspension will run out of travel. You are taking inches out of the designed range of motion when you lower it. It might ride "comfy" on a street that is very smooth (even so, arent your spring rates a lot higher?), but hit anything non smooth at speed and its crap (i.e. suspension bottoms out, UCA hit the body, banging sounds as a result etc etc). You cant get rid of that on a slammed EF, its just not possible!!!

I feel a bunch of these claims of non harsh rides when slammed are simply bogus. I dont see why people dont want to admit it. We all drive EF's that are lowered, we know what goes on and what it generally feels like. You cant fool your own kind! haha. I think that everyone's definition of ride quality differs greatly, and thats the reason for the misunderstanding and confusion.

only way to know, is for you to try it out and prove me wrong.

dont read google and tell me its wrong. of course scientific reasoning says so, but personal experience and custom work can improve ride quality.



what makes the ride harsh is not having uca travel on your car. you can go as low as you want, but whats the tophats going to do? and coilovers going to help, if your arms dont have the freedom to move?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
only way to know, is for you to try it out and prove me wrong.

dont read google and tell me its wrong. of course scientific reasoning says so, but personal experience and custom work can improve ride quality.



what makes the ride harsh is not having uca travel on your car. you can go as low as you want, but whats the tophats going to do? and coilovers going to help, if your arms dont have the freedom to move?
Haha, dude. We have tried it out. I've had several suspensions on several different ED's I've owned. I have also had the pleasure of having 408wdy as my roommate and driving/riding in his hatch (probably the lowest ED hatch on the net). It rides like complete garbage...and he's done a lot of "custom" work.

I see you're trying to argue your point, but let's be real...Woody cut out his shock towers so the UCA's had more travel...and it still rode like ****.

Period.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:42 PM
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Wo0ot ordered some new parts for the crx today!! I'm pumped.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by nickrps
Haha, dude. We have tried it out. I've had several suspensions on several different ED's I've owned. I have also had the pleasure of having 408wdy as my roommate and driving/riding in his hatch (probably the lowest ED hatch on the net). It rides like complete garbage...and he's done a lot of "custom" work.

I see you're trying to argue your point, but let's be real...Woody cut out his shock towers so the UCA's had more travel...and it still rode like ****.

Period.
sounds good.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:21 PM
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This is as low as I will go and still be able to track it and drive ok on the street.

Friends car


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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
only way to know, is for you to try it out and prove me wrong.

dont read google and tell me its wrong. of course scientific reasoning says so, but personal experience and custom work can improve ride quality.
Besides what nick already said, there's is no reason for me to read goodle or any other non sense, lol. I dont know everything, but I am very familiar with EF's and their characteristics, what can be changed, what cant be and so forth. You can only go so far in the quest of improving ride quality short of redesigning/reengineering the car's entire suspension (which just aint gonna happen!).


Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
what makes the ride harsh is not having uca travel on your car. you can go as low as you want, but whats the tophats going to do? and coilovers going to help, if your arms dont have the freedom to move?
Not sure what you're asking or saying here. Its as if you're agreeing with what I, and a few others are saying, but then the first part I quoted up above doesnt match.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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lol, i been messing with honda suspension since, hmmm....since he was in 4th grade.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CBEengineering
lol, i been messing with honda suspension since, hmmm....since he was in 4th grade.
lol so true, dude comes in here like hes a ****ing og. lmao
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 04:58 PM
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bunch of garbage **** talkers
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
bunch of garbage **** talkers
Right...

Your talking to people(especially Eric) who have been modding/racing/ and gaining knowledge about this cars for years .

Anyways gtfo and have a nice day
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:22 PM
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And if you think omni coilovers ride well at the height you are at(even with super extended tophats), you haven't been in a Honda with a quality setup. You are way out of the the proper range of those dampers. I guess compared to some ef on eBay coilover sleeves and blown shocks it rides good but riding around on the bumpstops is not a good ride
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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Can't we all just get along.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 05:40 PM
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believe we are getting along
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
bunch of garbage **** talkers
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 06:54 PM
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chemist, are you still running the suja1 hydro conversion? if so, how is it? any flex problems?
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:02 PM
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Chemist is running alot of things.

Have you seen his lab, it looks like a drug lab.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLxMOTOR EG
Chemist is running alot of things.

Have you seen his lab, it is a drug lab.
fixed
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:14 PM
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Fix for accuracy.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 07:22 PM
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i would attempt to design/make my own but i dont have access to a welder.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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Originally Posted by tai_mishuu911
i would attempt to design/make my own but i dont have access to a welder.
I have a welder down in Ft. Myers.

Im back in Tampa now, went to the Lightning game tonight.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by mitsubishiv5
bunch of garbage **** talkers
Dude... Don't be mad because you were proven wrong.. Take the advice given to you and run.
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Old Jan 12, 2010 | 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tai_mishuu911
i would attempt to design/make my own but i dont have access to a welder.
im about to embark upon this. with a cable tranny too
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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lots of activity in here today! lol.
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SIred91
This is as low as I will go and still be able to track it and drive ok on the street.

Friends car


My car
what cars?
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Old Jan 13, 2010 | 01:13 AM
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throwbacks...

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