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Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have a VSS setting in my garage from my Hydro LS tranny. will that work on the cable tranny??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Not unless you wire it to work with a cluster that takes a reading from electric VSS (DC, EG, EK cluster); more importantly to you James, it'll work with an SiR cluster. Funny story, I told my friend who also frequents the site and board how you'd never redlined and he giggled
Not unless you wire it to work with a cluster that takes a reading from electric VSS (DC, EG, EK cluster); more importantly to you James, it'll work with an SiR cluster. Funny story, I told my friend who also frequents the site and board how you'd never redlined and he giggled
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can put the cable vss in a k tranny and it will drive the ED cluster</TD></TR></TABLE>
Very true, but where's the fun in that? I can't wait until Dustin's gets that bezel done. He's mastering a new c/k fab technique. I converted to CRX dash so I can run the S2K cluster. It won't fit a hatch dash very well.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres something up with the S2k cluster and the watertemp? idunno i was looking to put one in my EJ1 something about the values dont match on one of the sensors?? i dunno which one it was but it was confusing and a member on here made a converter for it to work</TD></TR></TABLE>
The speedometer needs a converter to work correctly. I don't know about the watertemp, I was just going to run an aftermarket gauge for that anyway. The converter and plugs make it expensive.
Very true, but where's the fun in that? I can't wait until Dustin's gets that bezel done. He's mastering a new c/k fab technique. I converted to CRX dash so I can run the S2K cluster. It won't fit a hatch dash very well.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres something up with the S2k cluster and the watertemp? idunno i was looking to put one in my EJ1 something about the values dont match on one of the sensors?? i dunno which one it was but it was confusing and a member on here made a converter for it to work</TD></TR></TABLE>
The speedometer needs a converter to work correctly. I don't know about the watertemp, I was just going to run an aftermarket gauge for that anyway. The converter and plugs make it expensive.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thenick »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Not unless you wire it to work with a cluster that takes a reading from electric VSS (DC, EG, EK cluster); more importantly to you James, it'll work with an SiR cluster. Funny story, I told my friend who also frequents the site and board how you'd never redlined and he giggled</TD></TR></TABLE>
LOL, Vega is a VTEC VIRGIN.
Not unless you wire it to work with a cluster that takes a reading from electric VSS (DC, EG, EK cluster); more importantly to you James, it'll work with an SiR cluster. Funny story, I told my friend who also frequents the site and board how you'd never redlined and he giggled
</TD></TR></TABLE>LOL, Vega is a VTEC VIRGIN.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
The speedometer needs a converter to work correctly. I don't know about the watertemp, I was just going to run an aftermarket gauge for that anyway. The converter and plugs make it expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what it was ....ill just keep my Si cluster for now
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by URBAN TANK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have about 900 dallors worth of parts sitting in my floor and no way to put them on and what is so bad all the parts fit in a 2*2*2 box </TD></TR></TABLE>
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The speedometer needs a converter to work correctly. I don't know about the watertemp, I was just going to run an aftermarket gauge for that anyway. The converter and plugs make it expensive.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what it was ....ill just keep my Si cluster for now
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by URBAN TANK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have about 900 dallors worth of parts sitting in my floor and no way to put them on and what is so bad all the parts fit in a 2*2*2 box </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh and you said you were getting a GSR right....you dont need a wiring harness
you have a z6 right with a Si harness prolly? with a p28
just put a intake manifold on the GSR...Skunk 2
and then chip the p28 for the gsr
only thing different than a b16 say is the the IM.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah z6 with modified DX wiring harness to obd-1
the whole wiring harness thing is a question within a question.
Here is the thread of the guy I'm getting it from. It appears he was having problems wiring it up himself which is why he is selling it:
This is a quote from the seller not me:
Swap in a nutshell:
No leaks, good compression, never got it running because of small missing parts. Ran out of money during build and have to go back to school before summer so I have to sell.
Cliff notes: EX wiring harness would not work with the plugs
Parts included:
OBD2 99' GSR head, OBD2 99' GSR transmission, OBD2 99' GSR intake manifold + obd1 injectors installed for obd1 transition and OBD1 GSR distributor. OBD1 GSR block, OBD1 GSR ECU, stock exhaust manifold with crack, Cheapbay GSR header, valve cover, shift linkage, mounts, rear mount bracket, all hoses and pipes (block passage coolant pipe), GSR shift ****.
What the swap needs to run:
OBD1 GSR harness. This isn't an exception. People bullshitted me about using an EX harness and the bottom line is, it doesn't work. It won't cleanly plug into the distributor or the head. The reason an EX harness won't work is because of the head and distributor. For some reason they're just not made to work together.
IAT Sensor. This I can probably get for free for the buyer. Typerman2001 said he would send it to me for $5 shipped but I hardly EVER check this site so I never check my PM's in time. This sensor I've also been told by a Honda mechanic will make it VERY hard to start the motor without. If your motor has been running for a while and well, you can get away without it, but not a motor that's been sitting for months and is freshly rebuilt.
Knock sensor. Not a big deal, you can bypass it and still have secondary VTEC, but you'll want this if you want to be BAR'd.
you have a z6 right with a Si harness prolly? with a p28
just put a intake manifold on the GSR...Skunk 2
and then chip the p28 for the gsr
only thing different than a b16 say is the the IM.</TD></TR></TABLE>
yeah z6 with modified DX wiring harness to obd-1
the whole wiring harness thing is a question within a question.
Here is the thread of the guy I'm getting it from. It appears he was having problems wiring it up himself which is why he is selling it:
This is a quote from the seller not me:
Swap in a nutshell:
No leaks, good compression, never got it running because of small missing parts. Ran out of money during build and have to go back to school before summer so I have to sell.
Cliff notes: EX wiring harness would not work with the plugs
Parts included:
OBD2 99' GSR head, OBD2 99' GSR transmission, OBD2 99' GSR intake manifold + obd1 injectors installed for obd1 transition and OBD1 GSR distributor. OBD1 GSR block, OBD1 GSR ECU, stock exhaust manifold with crack, Cheapbay GSR header, valve cover, shift linkage, mounts, rear mount bracket, all hoses and pipes (block passage coolant pipe), GSR shift ****.
What the swap needs to run:
OBD1 GSR harness. This isn't an exception. People bullshitted me about using an EX harness and the bottom line is, it doesn't work. It won't cleanly plug into the distributor or the head. The reason an EX harness won't work is because of the head and distributor. For some reason they're just not made to work together.
IAT Sensor. This I can probably get for free for the buyer. Typerman2001 said he would send it to me for $5 shipped but I hardly EVER check this site so I never check my PM's in time. This sensor I've also been told by a Honda mechanic will make it VERY hard to start the motor without. If your motor has been running for a while and well, you can get away without it, but not a motor that's been sitting for months and is freshly rebuilt.
Knock sensor. Not a big deal, you can bypass it and still have secondary VTEC, but you'll want this if you want to be BAR'd.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LOL, Vega is a VTEC VIRGIN. </TD></TR></TABLE>
B series virgin
but I'm bout to stick it in and go fast
LOL, Vega is a VTEC VIRGIN.
</TD></TR></TABLE>B series virgin
but I'm bout to stick it in and go fast
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">use the harness on your z6 now and use the obd1 gsr dist the plugs are the same if you have grey plugs on your dist harness</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have a Type R distributor on the b16 that i plan on taking off
But like he was saying it has a obd-2 head on it. Does that matter in plugs??
I have a Type R distributor on the b16 that i plan on taking off
But like he was saying it has a obd-2 head on it. Does that matter in plugs??
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats what it was ....ill just keep my Si cluster for now</TD></TR></TABLE>
$175 for converter and I got the plugs from Ryan for $80.
Clusters used to be available for fairly cheap ($125-$150), but they are a lot more now. 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B series virgin
but I'm bout to stick it in and go fast </TD></TR></TABLE>
You sound like Ricky Bobby.
$175 for converter and I got the plugs from Ryan for $80.
Clusters used to be available for fairly cheap ($125-$150), but they are a lot more now. <TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B series virgin
but I'm bout to stick it in and go fast
</TD></TR></TABLE>You sound like Ricky Bobby.
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Re: (vega_box)
no the heads physically are the same, the distributors however are different for OBD-1 to OBD-2...but since it comes with a obd-1 dist and your harness is OBD-1 you are good....
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no the heads physically are the same, the distributors however are different for OBD-1 to OBD-2...but since it comes with a obd-1 dist and your harness is OBD-1 you are good....</TD></TR></TABLE>
so you mean the guy I'm buying it from is a total dumby for not know that and I'm coming up on a deal??
I know the gsr b18c has one extra sensor in the back that i have to look for but other then that taking out my z6 and plugging in the gsr should be cake??
so you mean the guy I'm buying it from is a total dumby for not know that and I'm coming up on a deal??
I know the gsr b18c has one extra sensor in the back that i have to look for but other then that taking out my z6 and plugging in the gsr should be cake??
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
$175 for converter and I got the plugs from Ryan for $80. Clusters used to be available for fairly cheap ($125-$150), but they are a lot more now. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Id just have to see how it looked....plus last time I checked my VSS wouldnt break loose from my tranny.....
$175 for converter and I got the plugs from Ryan for $80.
Clusters used to be available for fairly cheap ($125-$150), but they are a lot more now. </TD></TR></TABLE>Id just have to see how it looked....plus last time I checked my VSS wouldnt break loose from my tranny.....
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by URBAN TANK »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hell iam a vtec virgian mine is all b20 no hybird there and it will probaly stay that way Just throw a little boost to it and i will be good </TD></TR></TABLE>
Efficient and cheap. Decent torque, too.
Efficient and cheap. Decent torque, too.
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Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
so you mean the guy I'm buying it from is a total dumby for not know that and I'm coming up on a deal??</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like it, what was he putting it in to?
so you mean the guy I'm buying it from is a total dumby for not know that and I'm coming up on a deal??</TD></TR></TABLE>
sounds like it, what was he putting it in to?
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Id just have to see how it looked....plus last time I checked my VSS wouldnt break loose from my tranny..... </TD></TR></TABLE>
I gave up on trying to get mine out, I was going to sell it.
Id just have to see how it looked....plus last time I checked my VSS wouldnt break loose from my tranny.....
</TD></TR></TABLE>I gave up on trying to get mine out, I was going to sell it.
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
sounds like it, what was he putting it in to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a 93 civic EX coupe
My guess is he was trying to use his original harness with the swap
which is why he gave up on it
sounds like it, what was he putting it in to?</TD></TR></TABLE>
a 93 civic EX coupe
My guess is he was trying to use his original harness with the swap
which is why he gave up on it
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
on the good side if I got it out and had a S2K cluster id prolly end up breaking it.
but Id have an electronic one to go in there since im stuck with the D for a while
I got the rear interior stripped tonight and all washed
purple power=my friend
but Id have an electronic one to go in there since im stuck with the D for a while
I got the rear interior stripped tonight and all washed
purple power=my friend
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Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
a 93 civic EX coupe
My guess is he was trying to use his original harness with the swap
which is why he gave up on it</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats funny cause that harness will work with a OBD-1 GSR dist.
a 93 civic EX coupe
My guess is he was trying to use his original harness with the swap
which is why he gave up on it</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats funny cause that harness will work with a OBD-1 GSR dist.
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Re: (CBEengineering)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats funny cause that harness will work with a OBD-1 GSR dist.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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thats funny cause that harness will work with a OBD-1 GSR dist.</TD></TR></TABLE>
sweet ***
ahahaha
the come up of the year for me
thank God
honda-Tech rules
stay tuned for a Nintendo Valve covered B18c swapped Hatch to be whored out