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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B16CRXT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Didnt see reasons why, but my guess is poor fitment and inability to revert back to cable if need be...</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are we talking pedal fitment?
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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Are we talking pedal fitment? </TD></TR></TABLE>
i would like to know also
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:22 PM
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This solves that problem.

Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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eg/dc/ek?
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">This solves that problem.

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bolt ons
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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What do you do about a brake booster with that setup?
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mekanism &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you do about a brake booster with that setup?</TD></TR></TABLE>

2 MC's, no need for a booster.



This one has the fixed MC position, that first one was pivoting.

The down side is I paid less for my hatch than what that would cost.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:50 PM
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I dont see that fitting in an ef unless you cut the floor out to make room for the MC's.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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there are sets that hang
those come up thru the floor
but if the EG/DC would even remotely bolt up id just use it?
little bit of fab work welding some studs to the fire wall or just drill holes and run bolts thru.

drill a hole in the F/W and id weld a plate with tapped holes in it for the clutch MC...since theres no reinforcement in the F/W

im seriously considering doing this if I ever swap B/K in my hatch...I know people have done this so more info would be
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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I think pandahatch put that setup in one of his builds. He was going to put in his hatch but he wound up selling it and is building a DA. PM him and he can shed some light on the subject!
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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Yeah, fabbing some hydro pedals from an EG wouldn't be hard.

I've seen the Tilton's in a Corolla on here before, I can't find it right now, but I'll come across it eventually. I think Chad knows which one I'm talking about, it's black. It can be done in an EF, it'll just take some $$$$.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:04 PM
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The Eg setup is a remote hydro setup right? On my Eg the clutch MC isnt actuated witha rod, there is a hose that runs through the firewall, so you can mount the MC anywhere I think.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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not necissarily a remote setup
no the slave is actuated with pressure fed thru a hose
the MC bolts to the F/W and id actuated the pedal from the other side

but 2point2 did that

welded a push rod to the stock pedal and mounted a prelude MC under the dash right above the stock pedal set...then the line can be ran anywhere

edit: oh duh i just realized what you were saying
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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if you search hydro conversion in the archives, you come up with tons of results. One guy fabed his own brackets on top of his pedal that he had teh master cylinder attached to I think. To me, the hasport conversion is cheaper (used) and easier to do than all the "true" conversion.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:24 PM
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there is a oe black set on ht, seen it back in the day, black with red lettering if i remember correctly </TD></TR></TABLE>



looks way good IMO.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CBEengineering &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">not necissarily a remote setup
no the slave is actuated with pressure fed thru a hose
the MC bolts to the F/W and id actuated the pedal from the other side

but 2point2 did that

welded a push rod to the stock pedal and mounted a prelude MC under the dash right above the stock pedal set...then the line can be ran anywhere

edit: oh duh i just realized what you were saying</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah not really a remote setup but I think you get what I mean. You can mount the resevoir tank anywhere is what I meant to say. I havent looked at how its actuated under the dash, is there a piston that pushes the fluid located under the dash? I dont know how hydro setups are setup in hondas!
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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i just searched the archives and theres hardly "tons" of threads on this subject...I mentioned that one....it looked a lil too ghetto for me.

how could you be cheaper than free ( i have all the materials)
its prolly easier to "bolt on" but when it screws up thats where I draw the line...ive heard too many people bitching about it to warrant the easy factor....if it was easy and worked 100% of the time i'd do it.

ive never once seen a hydrolic clutch master cylinder fail in normal operating conditions (i give a viton or rubber seal submersed in fluid a 10 year life span?)
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:41 PM
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yea, there arent tons, but enough to get a good idea of whats going on. I dont have ANY hydro stuff so I would be fishing around everywhere trying to get the parts I need for the conversion. Then, since I dont have much free time, the car would prolly be down for two weeks. With the hasport conversion it wont be down longer than a day.

EDIT: I would love to do the true conversion and if I dont like the results of teh hasport conversion, I'll either fab my own conversion based on their design, or try the real deal...
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 07:45 PM
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true true

i tend to over engineer everything....

my car has been on jack stands for 4 months
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:01 PM
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I just like the idea of true hydro because you can hide the hoses easily. The stock cable setup cant be hidden too well due to lack of flexibility.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

2 MC's, no need for a booster.



This one has the fixed MC position, that first one was pivoting.

The down side is I paid less for my hatch than what that would cost.</TD></TR></TABLE>


not that anyone cares, but this set up would be terrible for a non-race vehicle. almost every circle track car i have sat in has this set up. the toe hook. theres no spring return for the gas pedal. you have to pull the gas back with your foot hence the toe hook.

pretty dangerous when a guy like vega is rolling up behind you at a red light in traffic, drops some skittles on his jdm ctr red / yellow supa dupa fly interior, forgets he has to pull the pedal back with his foot and ends up wedged under the *** end of your car. very very dangerous.

edit: almost nessecitates left foot braking. and is damn near worthless for anything other than "go fast turn left"

but i guess you could rig a spring on your TB that might be strong enough.
Old Feb 28, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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not that anyone cares, but this set up would be terrible for a non-race vehicle. almost every circle track car i have sat in has this set up. the toe hook. theres no spring return for the gas pedal. you have to pull the gas back with your foot hence the toe hook.

pretty dangerous when a guy like vega is rolling up behind you at a red light in traffic, drops some skittles on his jdm ctr red / yellow supa dupa fly interior, forgets he has to pull the pedal back with his foot and ends up wedged under the *** end of your car. very very dangerous.

edit: almost nessecitates left foot braking. and is damn near worthless for anything other than "go fast turn left"

but i guess you could rig a spring on your TB that might be strong enough.</TD></TR></TABLE>




That thing you see at the bottom of the pedal is a spring...A return spring. And the foot hook is so your foot dose not slips off when going over rough terrain or off of jumps...
Anyone that runs a gas pedal without a return spring is a ****** idiot.
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, fabbing some hydro pedals from an EG wouldn't be hard.

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You would think so, in my buddys k swap we opted not to use the hydro. The eg master wont work nice for two reasons. One If your looking at the master, its doesnt sit in the hole well (where the cable goes) The part that holds the bolts (teh two wings off the master) on hits that fire wall lip (idk if u wanna cut that) Two the angle its goes it at. Teh mater doenst sit orthoginal to the car, it sitsa at an agle. so the rod goes in at a 60 degree Angle toward teh driver side. so the pedal is going to be pushing it not straight. All and all it think it would work like ****

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I God I'm not going to fall into the petty conflict</TD></TR></TABLE>

Im not starting one, but i dont pretend to know about ef9 rear filler pieces(that is your field of experience ), i know trannys inside and out (no not that kinda ) Ive rebuilt a couple and done a couple lsd installs. Matter of fact im going to swap in my extra ctr 3rd gear into my gsr tranny for better acceleration
Old Mar 1, 2007 | 03:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Matter of fact im going to swap in my extra ctr 3rd gear into my gsr tranny for better acceleration
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NICE! After I install my new tranny, I'll be taking my cable S1 apart to see how it ticks and possibly rebuilding it....



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