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Re: (Boosted Chemist)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Im not starting one, but i dont pretend to know about ef9 rear filler pieces(that is your field of experience
), i know trannys inside and out (no not that kinda 
) Ive rebuilt a couple and done a couple lsd installs. Matter of fact im going to swap in my extra ctr 3rd gear into my gsr tranny for better acceleration
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thats cool and everything but even you agreed with me when I said LS trannys suck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah ls trannys suck except for mpgs. Some of the fastest boosted cars run itr trannys. I wish my gsr hyrdo was a b16a
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That was the only point I was trying to make.
The whole part about the myth thing, I was being sarcastic. No point intended because it not something I know much about as far as Turbo setups go, only what I read
Im not starting one, but i dont pretend to know about ef9 rear filler pieces(that is your field of experience
), i know trannys inside and out (no not that kinda ) Ive rebuilt a couple and done a couple lsd installs. Matter of fact im going to swap in my extra ctr 3rd gear into my gsr tranny for better acceleration </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats cool and everything but even you agreed with me when I said LS trannys suck
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah ls trannys suck except for mpgs. Some of the fastest boosted cars run itr trannys. I wish my gsr hyrdo was a b16a
</TD></TR></TABLE>That was the only point I was trying to make.
The whole part about the myth thing, I was being sarcastic. No point intended because it not something I know much about as far as Turbo setups go, only what I read
Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
thats cool and everything but even you agreed with me when I said LS trannys suck
That was the only point I was trying to make.
The whole part about the myth thing, I was being sarcastic. No point intended because it not something I know much about as far as Turbo setups go, only what I read </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oh ok i misread you i though you were being serious, lol its all good
thats cool and everything but even you agreed with me when I said LS trannys suck
That was the only point I was trying to make.
The whole part about the myth thing, I was being sarcastic. No point intended because it not something I know much about as far as Turbo setups go, only what I read
</TD></TR></TABLE>Oh ok i misread you i though you were being serious, lol its all good
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
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Room mates suck, no matter what. At one point I was renting a house with 3 Hooters chicks, one of which is now my wife, and that was a horrible experience.
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im with ya, i have moved in / lived with some people who were my oldest friends or buddys and everytime at the end of the lease everyone hates each other
Living with people sucks for real life but is way fun when partying occurs
Room mates suck, no matter what. At one point I was renting a house with 3 Hooters chicks, one of which is now my wife, and that was a horrible experience.
</TD></TR></TABLE>im with ya, i have moved in / lived with some people who were my oldest friends or buddys and everytime at the end of the lease everyone hates each other
Living with people sucks for real life but is way fun when partying occurs
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Re: (vega_box)
Dang, my old LS trans didnt feel so bad. You guys must have them coupled with some seriously laggy *** motors, lol, or talking without ever driven with one in an EF.
On a side note, when driving on the street, all the shifting that needs to be done with the shorter ratio trannys can get annoying as hell.
On a side note, when driving on the street, all the shifting that needs to be done with the shorter ratio trannys can get annoying as hell.
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Re: (fourthgenhatchB17)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dang, my old LS trans didnt feel so bad. You guys must have them coupled with some seriously laggy *** motors, lol, or talking without ever driven with one in an EF.
On a side note, when driving on the street, all the shifting that needs to be done with the shorter ratio trannys can get annoying as hell.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would like to test it out to make sure. If I make some money I hope to test out a LS and a b16 tranny to see what the results are
by side note:
is 100 mph at 4,300 rpms reasonable??
On a side note, when driving on the street, all the shifting that needs to be done with the shorter ratio trannys can get annoying as hell.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would like to test it out to make sure. If I make some money I hope to test out a LS and a b16 tranny to see what the results are
by side note:
is 100 mph at 4,300 rpms reasonable??
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Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I would like to test it out to make sure. If I make some money I hope to test out a LS and a b16 tranny to see what the results are
by side note:
is 100 mph at 4,300 rpms reasonable??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ive tested it out so im speaking from first hand experience.
4,300 @ 100? Sounds like an LS tranny, i dont remember what rpms i was at when i was doin 100mph, lol. My B16 tranny has an LS 5th so my cruising speed on the freeway is unchanged. A B16 tranny with its original 5th gear will be a hell of a lot higher when doin 100mph.
I would like to test it out to make sure. If I make some money I hope to test out a LS and a b16 tranny to see what the results are
by side note:
is 100 mph at 4,300 rpms reasonable??</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ive tested it out so im speaking from first hand experience.
4,300 @ 100? Sounds like an LS tranny, i dont remember what rpms i was at when i was doin 100mph, lol. My B16 tranny has an LS 5th so my cruising speed on the freeway is unchanged. A B16 tranny with its original 5th gear will be a hell of a lot higher when doin 100mph.
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Re: (-NA-aLL-thE-wAy-)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had an LS tranny on the B16 swap in my old rex. The torqueless motor combined with long gears made it feel pretty gutless.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Differences in engine power will make a difference, of course.
edit: ^^ that sounds stupid.
Differences in engine power will make a difference, of course.
edit: ^^ that sounds stupid.
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Re: (fourthgenhatchB17)
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Ive tested it out so im speaking from first hand experience. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Thats always the best info
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4,300 @ 100? Sounds like an LS tranny, i dont remember what rpms i was at when i was doin 100mph, lol. My B16 tranny has an LS 5th so my cruising speed on the freeway is unchanged. A B16 tranny with its original 5th gear will be a hell of a lot higher when doin 100mph.
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So for a daily driven can recommend LS 5th gear???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had an LS tranny on the B16 swap in my old rex. The torqueless motor combined with long gears made it feel pretty gutless.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm praying i never have to experience this again. But if all else fails you take what you can get though
Ive tested it out so im speaking from first hand experience.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thats always the best info
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fourthgenhatchB17 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
4,300 @ 100? Sounds like an LS tranny, i dont remember what rpms i was at when i was doin 100mph, lol. My B16 tranny has an LS 5th so my cruising speed on the freeway is unchanged. A B16 tranny with its original 5th gear will be a hell of a lot higher when doin 100mph.
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So for a daily driven can recommend LS 5th gear???
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I had an LS tranny on the B16 swap in my old rex. The torqueless motor combined with long gears made it feel pretty gutless.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm praying i never have to experience this again. But if all else fails you take what you can get though
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Re: (GEIJIN)
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fixed
the new one is being taken apart now that I got the daily back up
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the new one is being taken apart now that I got the daily back up
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Re: (vega_box)
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Thats always the best info
So for a daily driven can recommend LS 5th gear???
I'm praying i never have to experience this again. But if all else fails you take what you can get though
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Obviously my opinion will differ from others. While i think its "not that bad" others may think its horrible, lol.
Oh for sure. Many people get by just fine without it though. Nihkon comes to mind. Almost everytime i ride with him i make a comment about the RPM's (LMAO Jason
). It all comes down to preferance.
You take what u can get/afford and deal with it.
Thats always the best info
So for a daily driven can recommend LS 5th gear???
I'm praying i never have to experience this again. But if all else fails you take what you can get though
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Obviously my opinion will differ from others. While i think its "not that bad" others may think its horrible, lol.
Oh for sure. Many people get by just fine without it though. Nihkon comes to mind. Almost everytime i ride with him i make a comment about the RPM's (LMAO Jason
). It all comes down to preferance.You take what u can get/afford and deal with it.
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Re: (fourthgenhatchB17)
LMAO! I was just about to post about that! haha
But yeah, I think the short 1-4 are fun for the street. But the LS 5th would be nice to have to avoid hearing the engine revving at 4500-5000k at 80mph!
But yeah, I think the short 1-4 are fun for the street. But the LS 5th would be nice to have to avoid hearing the engine revving at 4500-5000k at 80mph!
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Re: (xDicktonesx)
I have two complaints with the short geared b16 tranny's. 1st gear and 5th. 1st. is so short that it annoys me, and 5ht is so short that you are practically in vtec on the hwy.
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Re: (xDicktonesx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDicktonesx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am getting rid of all my B ****. something has occoured signaling that it is K24 time. </TD></TR></TABLE>strait trade?
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Re: (xDicktonesx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDicktonesx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am getting rid of all my B ****. something has occoured signaling that it is K24 time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
...so what happened?
...so what happened?
Re: (xDicktonesx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xDicktonesx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i am getting rid of all my B ****. something has occoured signaling that it is K24 time. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah i come to this conclusion also, but to build a k20 turbo is way more money then i pay a year in tuition, so im just going ot hang out until there.
Yeah i come to this conclusion also, but to build a k20 turbo is way more money then i pay a year in tuition, so im just going ot hang out until there.
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Re: (Smokinsax)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Smokinsax »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">strait trade?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -NA-aLL-thE-wAy- »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
...so what happened?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah i come to this conclusion also, but to build a k20 turbo is way more money then i pay a year in tuition, so im just going ot hang out until there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
alright....
my next built motor is going into a car that in stock trim will have working AC and PS and whatnot. so its a matter of sacrifice. if i am going to sacrifice those power amenities, i am not going to sacrifice them for a ****-ant b16, a 185whp lsv that is old news or even a 200+whp b20 vtec that will feel slow after a week. but i will sacrifice them for a 300+ k24 all motor pump gas set up. or a lightly boosted reliable 400whp k24 boost set up.
and besides, the aftermarket is getting ready to make a full swing toward the K.
also, if you knwo where to look (like heinrich crxEE8) you can build a K24 i-vtec for about what it costs to build a b20vtec these days. maybe a **** hair more because the cams are 700 bucks.
edit: basically, i want to keep up with the technology and make big reliable power so i can run full interior and not feel like a slug. gone are the days of gutting the **** out of a car to make an LSV feel fast.
...so what happened?</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted Chemist »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Yeah i come to this conclusion also, but to build a k20 turbo is way more money then i pay a year in tuition, so im just going ot hang out until there.</TD></TR></TABLE>
alright....
my next built motor is going into a car that in stock trim will have working AC and PS and whatnot. so its a matter of sacrifice. if i am going to sacrifice those power amenities, i am not going to sacrifice them for a ****-ant b16, a 185whp lsv that is old news or even a 200+whp b20 vtec that will feel slow after a week. but i will sacrifice them for a 300+ k24 all motor pump gas set up. or a lightly boosted reliable 400whp k24 boost set up.
and besides, the aftermarket is getting ready to make a full swing toward the K.
also, if you knwo where to look (like heinrich crxEE8) you can build a K24 i-vtec for about what it costs to build a b20vtec these days. maybe a **** hair more because the cams are 700 bucks.
edit: basically, i want to keep up with the technology and make big reliable power so i can run full interior and not feel like a slug. gone are the days of gutting the **** out of a car to make an LSV feel fast.
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Re: (civicandy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicandy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have two complaints with the short geared b16 tranny's. 1st gear and 5th. 1st. is so short that it annoys me, and 5ht is so short that you are practically in vtec on the hwy. </TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm thinking of adding LS 1st and 5th gear.
I'm glad I read about this being possible seems like in the long run i would have wanted to throw my car out a window because of the gear ratio
I'm thinking of adding LS 1st and 5th gear.
I'm glad I read about this being possible seems like in the long run i would have wanted to throw my car out a window because of the gear ratio
Re: (vega_box)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vega_box »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I'm thinking of adding LS 1st and 5th gear.
I'm glad I read about this being possible seems like in the long run i would have wanted to throw my car out a window because of the gear ratio </TD></TR></TABLE>
Im almost 100% sure all b series have the same first gear
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm
I'm thinking of adding LS 1st and 5th gear.
I'm glad I read about this being possible seems like in the long run i would have wanted to throw my car out a window because of the gear ratio
</TD></TR></TABLE>Im almost 100% sure all b series have the same first gear
http://www.ff-squad.com/tech/temp/Bgears.htm