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Old 12-01-2004, 10:50 AM
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Default Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO

I have been reading the archives for hours about the companies that make the Wideband O2's. I cannot make up my mind. It seems that the LM-1 is portable tuning tool that usually isn't mounted permanently that can datalog with the data being viewed on a laptop/PC whereas the PLX is a real time data logger, but how are you supposed to keep track of real time data logging whil eyou are driving? Does it record the info?

Also I have an unused bung on my manifold... its an FMAX kit for an accord.. there is a bung right below the WG flange that I have always been afraid to put a EGT probe for fear it might break off and crash into the turbo. Should I put the EGT probe there regardless or the wideband 02 or replace my narrow band O2 with the wideband??

Also I know the PLX wideband 02 can use my Autometer A/F gauge but can the LM-1 do the same? Thanks in advance.
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (Excelerate)

Easy, if you plan on tuning other people car get the LM1, if you want something mountable for the car get the PLX.

PLX does have datalogging but only on the M-500 model. It uses a wireless connection to send data to a laptop.

Sorry I don't understand your question about your EGT. I know the PLX supports narrowband emulation. And you should mount your wideband sensor 12-14 inches away from mani.

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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (eddyboy)

thanx.. any other opinions?
Old 12-03-2004, 07:17 AM
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (Excelerate)

can you datalog the plx 300 from hondata?
Old 12-06-2004, 05:41 PM
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (dornon13)

Yes
Old 12-06-2004, 07:13 PM
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (Excelerate)

i've got the LM1 and the realtime datalogging is great...not to mention it stores up to 45 minutes of data in the controller for later review on a laptop.
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hey guys can you hook the wideband up to a stock ecu WITHOUT the stock narrowband sensor like have the ecu read the wideband signal?
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (dornon13)

you left out a good wideband, zentronix
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (dornon13)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dornon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey guys can you hook the wideband up to a stock ecu WITHOUT the stock narrowband sensor like have the ecu read the wideband signal?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not sure about others, but the PLX you can yes.
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sweet thanks
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dornon13 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sweet thanks</TD></TR></TABLE>

Er, I just re-read your question. many widebands have narrowband and wideband output. then you jsut wire the narrowband into the ecu. ecu will still see it as a narrowband signal tho
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (Excelerate)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Excelerate &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> whereas the PLX is a real time data logger, but how are you supposed to keep track of real time data logging whil eyou are driving? Does it record the info?

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You hook up the laptop to the ECU with a serial cable or a hacked nokia usb cable. Use any of the free dataloggers that are available and you're set.
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (DefiantGSR)

I have the LM1, everything seems great but strangely enough I had a few of its screws back out and the unit almost came apart, not a big deal, just strange.
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (tegunderpressure)

we have a m-500 at the shop and it works great, although we dont use the wireless datalogging, we datalogg off of uberdata and directly from the ecu. the m-300 would be my choice for one mounted in my car all the time.
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (reaction360)

how does the AEM UEGO wideband compare to all these listed? i'm assuming that it just a gauge that has no datalogging capabilities. but it is a compentant piece for showing if you're running rich/lean right?? just wanna be sure
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (spectacle)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by spectacle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how does the AEM UEGO wideband compare to all these listed? i'm assuming that it just a gauge that has no datalogging capabilities. but it is a compentant piece for showing if you're running rich/lean right?? just wanna be sure</TD></TR></TABLE>
the AEM UEGO does not have datalogging capabilities. You can get either the gauge style or the single or dual channel that hooks up to you ems. I have the single channel hooked up to my AEM EMS and it great. when you hook of the UEGO to your ems you will had datalogging capabilities.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by oxSLEEPERxo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you left out a good wideband, zentronix </TD></TR></TABLE>


great wideband plus if comes opitional with an egt
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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (Boosted Chemist)

I have the LM1, it works great, and is well priced.

Their 02 sensor cable is nicely packaged to prevent chaffing or other damage.

The ONE problem I did have has to do with the fact that they used surface mount connectors (DOH!) for their analog output cable. This is a bad idea if the cable is under a lot of stress, the connector broke clean off the board. With about 5 minutes and a little solder it was good as new.

Did I mention its huge? I know they could've made it smaller however i'm sure it was a cost thing.

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Default Re: Wideband Pros and Cons: LM-1, PLX, FJO (stizzit)

https://honda-tech.com/zerothre...35117


the zeitronix is the BEST bang for the buck. the AEM is probably the worst according to this tihng

i am biased and basing my choices off of the signal from the motec
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DefiantGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You hook up the laptop to the ECU with a serial cable or a hacked nokia usb cable. Use any of the free dataloggers that are available and you're set.</TD></TR></TABLE>

you sure this works with a plxm300?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fafsa &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

you sure this works with a plxm300? </TD></TR></TABLE>

the m300 should have a narrowband output like the m500 and if it does, you just hook that up to your O2 wire going into the ecu and solder in a 4pin connector to the ecu board and then use a nokia or serial cable to run to a laptop.
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&lt;-- Happy user of a PLX M-300.
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