What do you think about my turbo build up
10-12-2004, 01:07 AM
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What do you think about my turbo build up
My Motor: B18b
My Turbo of choice: Greddy + 8-12psi of boost.
Block:
Je 10:1 Pistons, bore: 81.50
GE rods
ARP studs
Head:
Just rebuild with stock parts, don't plan on reving higher than stock.
I don't plan on resleeving, and I don't plan on boosting past 14psi (I don't think the greddy turbo even goes this high). Which is the reason I chose to go with higher than stock compression pistons. I'm trying to conpensate in compression for lack of boost.
I plan on keeping the turbo legal (except maybe an intercooler).
What are your thoughts?
Do you think resleeving should be mandatory for reliability sake?
Do I even need rods? The builder said with the boost I plan on running, I wouldn't even need to upgrade the rods, but rather just change out the rod bolts for something a little stronger.
Some things I do not need to hear:
* You don't even need to upgrade your internals with low boost. Well, I have a spare block, and it's not healthy enough for forced induction so a rebuild is in order anyway. And if I'm going to rebuild it, I might as well build it with better parts for insurance.
*"The greddy kit sucks, it's got an internal wastegate."
Questions:
* Will running these 10:1 pistons (stock is 9.2:1) have problems when I'm breaking in the motor (no turbo at this point)?
* Will raising my compression mess with the e-manage pre-programmed map when I first fire it up?
*Where is the OBDI wiring diagram for the Greddy Turbo kit (e-manage)? (I have yet to find it on here).
My Turbo of choice: Greddy + 8-12psi of boost.
Block:
Je 10:1 Pistons, bore: 81.50
GE rods
ARP studs
Head:
Just rebuild with stock parts, don't plan on reving higher than stock.
I don't plan on resleeving, and I don't plan on boosting past 14psi (I don't think the greddy turbo even goes this high). Which is the reason I chose to go with higher than stock compression pistons. I'm trying to conpensate in compression for lack of boost.
I plan on keeping the turbo legal (except maybe an intercooler).
What are your thoughts?
Do you think resleeving should be mandatory for reliability sake?
Do I even need rods? The builder said with the boost I plan on running, I wouldn't even need to upgrade the rods, but rather just change out the rod bolts for something a little stronger.
Some things I do not need to hear:
* You don't even need to upgrade your internals with low boost. Well, I have a spare block, and it's not healthy enough for forced induction so a rebuild is in order anyway. And if I'm going to rebuild it, I might as well build it with better parts for insurance.
*"The greddy kit sucks, it's got an internal wastegate."
Questions:
* Will running these 10:1 pistons (stock is 9.2:1) have problems when I'm breaking in the motor (no turbo at this point)?
* Will raising my compression mess with the e-manage pre-programmed map when I first fire it up?
*Where is the OBDI wiring diagram for the Greddy Turbo kit (e-manage)? (I have yet to find it on here).
10-12-2004, 11:54 AM
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Re: What do you think about my turbo build up (beerbongskickass)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by beerbongskickass »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think you should have got a vtec head, instead of rebuilding your stock head.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Thank you for your input, but I've decided I want to go LS turbo, not LS/Vtec.
Thank you for your input, but I've decided I want to go LS turbo, not LS/Vtec.
10-12-2004, 12:00 PM
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Get Eagle Rods with the uprgaded ARP hardware to go along with them. Use the pistions you stated - but you will NEED stand alone to tune for high compression and boost. Stock sleeves are known to handle 500+ whp -- sleeves dont crack at boost #s - they crack from bad tunes and high horsepower. Stock sleeves are fine. Just go pistons and rods down low (along with the other ammenities in a rebuild) - and a ported head and some good valvetrain up top. Turbo cams for an LS are advised but not required. Stock cams have made 300+whp - but you'll need a head port. You'll need stand alone as said before as well. You wouldn't be thinking wrong if you upgraded the oil pump to an ITR unit as well.
Good luck, sounds like a good solid build if you have a good tune put on it.
Good luck, sounds like a good solid build if you have a good tune put on it.
10-12-2004, 12:07 PM
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Re: What do you think about my turbo build up (Takumi Fujiwara)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Takumi Fujiwara »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Thank you for your input, but I've decided I want to go LS turbo, not LS/Vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would then suggest getting some major headwork done, because the stock LS head flows like ***.
Thank you for your input, but I've decided I want to go LS turbo, not LS/Vtec.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would then suggest getting some major headwork done, because the stock LS head flows like ***.
10-12-2004, 12:08 PM
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Re: (Drag_On)
Tuning is part of the issue however. I need this car to run half-way decent on the greddy e-manage base map so I can get to the dyno, which is probably around 75-100 miles away.
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10-13-2004, 11:21 PM
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Re: (lanojp1)
s<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lanojp1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you can break in the motor at low compression yes...
and yes raising ur compression will mess with ur basemap, just get it tuned...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is there another way besides paying money on the dyno, tuning it during break in. This would mean I need to tune when I'm breaking in the motor, then again after it's broken in with turbo install.... this, of course with higher compression.
and yes raising ur compression will mess with ur basemap, just get it tuned...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Is there another way besides paying money on the dyno, tuning it during break in. This would mean I need to tune when I'm breaking in the motor, then again after it's broken in with turbo install.... this, of course with higher compression.
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be careful during break in.. i like to get my rings to seat by beating on it a lil bit..just be careful cuz the basemap will be whacked out cuz u upped compression and turboed it
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Re: (96GSRkId)
After reading some horror stories... I think I'll opt for a rebuild that yields stock compression so the stock ECU will run it properly (kinda), until it's broken in, so I can slap the turbo on and tune it for realz on the dyno.
I would hate to build something costing so much money, then run lean, and be up a creek without you know what.
As Bush stated before, "You fool me once, shame on me.... you fool me twice... uh... don't fool me again."
I would hate to build something costing so much money, then run lean, and be up a creek without you know what.
As Bush stated before, "You fool me once, shame on me.... you fool me twice... uh... don't fool me again."
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