turboex

max hp: 208.2
max tq: 156.2
This is on a totally untuned hondata running a c-speed basemap at 9psi to 8100rpm
Engine Mods:
Motor 2000 Civic B16a2 Engine
Bored 10 Over
Complete Blue Printed and Balanced Bottom End
Eagle Rods
Wiseco 8to1 Turbo Pistons
Turboxs H-RFL Blow Of Valve
Turboxs Dual Stage Boost Controler
Nuformz Block Guard
Unorthadox UnderDrive Pullies
Turbonetics T3/4 Turbo Polished
Spearco Intercooler
Tial Wastegate
B&M FPR
Test Pipe
Poly motor mounts
Poly Shifter Mounts
Clutchnet Stage 2 Clutch
Apexi Full 3inch Catback N1 Exhaust
Hondata Stage 3b
Hondata Datalogging
DSM 450cc Injectors
JG/Edlebrock Victor Intake
how much more is tunning gonna help?

1fstevo

Hum... what kind of dyno, mustang or dynojet? where you dynoed at?

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

why didnt u tune it?

Speed PHreak

Look at your torque......bawhahahah. Damn b16's when will they ever learn.

J/K

It looks a bit low to me overall, though it could be due to the fast that you've got 8:1 pistons in there. You should have stayed 9:1 or higher. Higher static compression yeilds more power per lb of boost. Not that you can change it now. Crank up the boost, you ought to be running at least 12~14lbs if you're A/F looks good.

DSM will only support about 300 WHP, tuning ough to help you ough a good bit from the looks for it.


[Modified by Speed PHreak, 7:37 PM 8/28/2002]

The_Head

yeah, compression is too low. You should of went higher since you had engine management.


...I'll sleep better at night not having to worry about crappy R/S ratio and sidewall loading with my B16, 8500 rpms every day, stock bottom end, no worries.

CzanSOHC

A lot. Those number seem low ot me.

teamrocket si

Tune it and turn up the boost and you should see much better numbers.

turboex

well see a shop just got a dynojet and the nearest hondata tunner is 8hours away, i have a apointment for sept 5th but i just wanted to do a bse run for now. Yeah my compression kills it a bit, the other guy there ran a stock motor b16 hatch drag3 with 7psi and made 220hp so yeah my compression is hurting me. also my hondata chip is for the stock map sensor. but they will change that when i get it tunned. We also ran a ls interga stock motor and at 7psi he made 216hp and 182tq. tunning is 140bucks and hour and they said 2 hours should do it. also they dont have anything at the dyno i used to measure air/fuel so i wanted to play it safe with just 9psi. also my graph is all over the place and now that i look at it it stops reading at 7500rpm. torque maxed at 6200 and droped from there


[Modified by turboex, 8:48 PM 8/28/2002]


[Modified by turboex, 8:51 PM 8/28/2002]

The_Head

Why are you changing your MAP sensor? are you going to be boosting more than 14 lbs? If not, it doesnt really matter, you can use the stock Honda MAP sensor.

I Go to Salt Lake City for Hondata tuning, its 6 hours away.

You have to be dedicated!

turboex

i was told the stock sensor is only good for 11psi. i have a gm one anyways. so its all good, im looking to hit 300hp. what are my odds?

turboex

ttt

The_Head

Yes you were right, 11 psi, I had forgotten about that.

I'd say the odds are good for 300 whp, although I would upgrade from 450 cc injectors to do that. I am looking at at least 660 cc injectors.

piscorpio

I agree, for all the engine work and money thats been put into it, you should be able to squeeze more from it. D16's can produce 200whp on stock internals, granted not as reliably, but you get the point.

oscargsr

I also agree turn up the boost with that kind of engine work and the hondata system, get a 3 bar map sensor and crank up the boost to 20psi and see what kind of numbers you get. And you crank it up JUST HOLD ON!

The_Head

Well crank up the boost, but to a point where the Turbo is still running efficiently. What trim compressor are you running? I am curious, because I am going to be running a turbo on a B16A as well.

turboex

i have the new gm sensor. and i have 450 injectors already running. at only 9psi i did not expect to much, but then again my dyno run cut of at 208hp at 7400rpm i still had a grand to go yet. stupid me, and as for boost. with 8to1 compression what can i run after it is tunned and still be safe? oh as for trim im not sure how to check? its the silver backed turbo not the blue one that comes with the drag3 kit


[Modified by turboex, 6:31 AM 8/29/2002]

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

assuming u r tuned and have enough fuel, i would run no less then 20 psi w/ 8:1 compression. oh and that is on pump gas too. also assuming ur turbo is still efficient at 20psi.

turboex

damn thats high, but sounds good. i have the standard drag3 turbo. whats that good for?

piscorpio

doh! Shouldn't you have researched this before doing all the engine work?

turboex

i wanted to sty with the low compression due to teh bad gas we get up here all the time, pluss i wanted more room for error just incase

DA666

looks like alot of work and money, tune that bitch up and tell us what she makes!

good luck

piscorpio

I understand that (how bad is the gas??), but in actuality the forced induction increases compression anyway in a sense. Of course the beefed up internals should give you more room for error, which is good. Post again once you've done some tuning, Id like to see how this turns out. A stock B16 has alot of potential, your's should have tons of potential.

turboex

thanks alot guys, ill post it up supa soon after the 5th