<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i told you. its always nice to have a beater when you have a boosted Honda. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hear that. My Hatch was the best investment I have made

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i told you. its always nice to have a beater when you have a boosted Honda. </TD></TR></TABLE>

well that is not an option for me. i can want one, i just cant have one..

i know its nice to have one.. im just screwed right now..

 

gotta pay to play brotha, this aint a broke mans sport.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gotta pay to play brotha, this aint a broke mans sport. </TD></TR></TABLE>

haha its not much as money, its the time factor im playing with..

but time = money

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

How/why did you have a quarter size whole in your charge pipe? Was the 12.8 on street tires? 370whp is quite an "estimation" from 292whp. Either way, sorry to hear it blew. You should probably go a bit more conservative on the tuneup next time. I've seen ALOT of people lately tuning for big numbers trying to impress people, but with the motors lasting a month or so at best...</TD></TR></TABLE>

W/ that trapspeed and the weight of his car, 370whp is probably pretty close at the time of the run. Scott just did 121 w/ a lil more power then 370, and a lil less weight then jordo.

Sorry it blew Jordo.. Good luck on the new build, I know it'll be somthin decent.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">gotta pay to play brotha, this aint a broke mans sport. </TD></TR></TABLE>

this is a very $ hobby

 

"it" happens to the best of us

 

hummm, 20 degrees igntion timing on a 10.5:1 motor @ 7psi would probably be fine on a motor w/ a regular t3/t4 turbo like a 57 trim or something similar. But w/ that t67 compressor wheel, your going to have some dense *** air @ 7psi, and the flame is going to travel faster, so its going to need less timing. Look at the trapspeed, that car was making some good power. **** happens though dude good luck. The only thing that probably woulda saved your motor was tuning against a knock sensor. btw, good luck w/ new build.

 

A knock sensor wouldn't have helped, because it is ignored at WOT anyway. I think that they already established that his car was making a lot of power. . .

 

Im starting to look at this..

I might be parting the car out and selling it as stock..

I dont know what to do.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A knock sensor wouldn't have helped, because it is ignored at WOT anyway. I think that they already established that his car was making a lot of power. . . </TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously they didn't establish it enough. and who ignores a knocksensor at WOT? I said tune against a knock sensor, i didn't say to use a stock honda knocksensor to band aid a bad tune. Anyways, not saying it was a bad tune, cause like they said, the turbo exceeded all their expectations. If the car was making 290whp on the street like the way it did on the dyno, it probably would have been fine at 20 degrees ignition timing. I don't think the tuner really did anything wrong in this scenario. He tuned it on the dyno the way the car sat. Later on the boost leak was fixed and it obviously made a **** load more power, and exceeded the tune. If there was a knock sensor installed, (like a J&S) it probably would have notified the driver that something was wrong.

 

You would need a new motor to part it as stock . for all that just fix it. youll have more headaches selling it, trust me

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bad-T &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Obviously they didn't establish it enough. and who ignores a knocksensor at WOT? I said tune against a knock sensor, i didn't say to use a stock honda knocksensor to band aid a bad tune. Anyways, not saying it was a bad tune, cause like they said, the turbo exceeded all their expectations. If the car was making 290whp on the street like the way it did on the dyno, it probably would have been fine at 20 degrees ignition timing. I don't think the tuner really did anything wrong in this scenario. He tuned it on the dyno the way the car sat. Later on the boost leak was fixed and it obviously made a **** load more power, and exceeded the tune. If there was a knock sensor installed, (like a J&S) it probably would have notified the driver that something was wrong.</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually thats not the sernario at all, it was street tuned, then later dynoed

tuning is not an issue..

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You would need a new motor to part it as stock . for all that just fix it. youll have more headaches selling it, trust me </TD></TR></TABLE>

im looking at reliablity down the line.

would a sti be better.. is what im thinking

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actually thats not the sernario at all, it was street tuned, then later dynoed

tuning is not an issue.. </TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, well thats good. I thought I had it figured out pretty good. Good luck w/ your new set up or car whatever you end up doing.

 

hahahaha an STI isnt really better. All cars will have issues if not maintained

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaha an STI isnt really better. All cars will have issues if not maintained</TD></TR></TABLE>

Full-Race ITR &gt; STi

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hahahaha an STI isnt really better. All cars will have issues if not maintained</TD></TR></TABLE>
who says the car wasnt maintained??

and tell me what proper maintainence is

 

keep the r, the sti payment and insurance will suck.

 

i just think you are trying to bandaid the issue with another problem. I think you have alot to learn about turbo.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I think you have alot to learn about turbo. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i strongly agree with you

 

Jordo, **** that, don't sell it. It's just a little bump in the road. This will help you come back bigger and better. That's the same way I felt when I blew my motor, left without a car, and no money. In the end, it worked out better, and my car came back 10x stronger.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by m R g S r &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Jordo, **** that, don't sell it. It's just a little bump in the road. This will help you come back bigger and better. That's the same way I felt when I blew my motor, left without a car, and no money. In the end, it worked out better, and my car came back 10x stronger. </TD></TR></TABLE>

its just this blowing, at this time is making me realize a few things. i know the car will be 1000xtimes better.

its just when school starts to get in the way its a pain in the ***.

 

I was in the same position but now shes built and I'm running her in. I was considering selling it and get an NSX but just couldn't leave the dark side. Anyway, you'll have plenty more fun with your ITR+boost than you owould with an STi. You've already gone through a lot to get where you are so why give in already? Just get a beater to do your errands.

 

You could buy my car. I may be selling it soon.

This is Dwight by the way.