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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 07:28 AM
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Hi, could you tell me where in the UK you got your block sleeved, im having problems trying to find somewhere to do it and when i find somewhere the quote me outrageous prices! Iv'e been quoted over £1000 ($2000) just to fit them and an extra £100 ($200) if it has to be line honed. Any help would be appreciated
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EM1 civic99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hi, could you tell me where in the UK you got your block sleeved, im having problems trying to find somewhere to do it and when i find somewhere the quote me outrageous prices! Iv'e been quoted over £1000 ($2000) just to fit them and an extra £100 ($200) if it has to be line honed. Any help would be appreciated
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Contact W. Drake in Bradford (01274733541). £40/hour and a B16 block would require about 10 hours. My bill was £470 inc VAT. The price included the installation and pressing of the sleeves, boring and honing to the pistons spec. Make sure if you use them to mention me

Anyone who asks more than £500 is a rip off. Do you have the sleeves already or need to get those as well?
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Old Dec 4, 2007 | 11:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Depends upon his purpose. I'm only at about 430 on a sleeved block, but many sleeved "lower powered" applications are for those that road race. There's nothing wrong with a sleeved block for that extra insurance.. He's doing right the first time in case he changes his mind..</TD></TR></TABLE>

On the note of the power your putting, are you using the stock axles or did you upgrade those as well? I'm not sure what route to take with those !!!
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 01:10 AM
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yeah still need to get the sleeves, found a company in America that is selling them on Ebay for £290 shipped so was thinking of getting those! Thanks for your help in where to get them done, really appreciated, will definetly be giving them a call
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:36 AM
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Yakuza, how much for the sleeves?
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 07:37 AM
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392whp on pump ,benson sleeves, 15psi, stock axles, gsr tranny w/quaife lsd 2 years no broken parts yet
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">=Adamd]Yakuza, how much for the sleeves?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Darton MID sleeves, inc seals kit all about £300 shipped. If you and EM1 Civic order together I could get them slightly for less.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redline32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">392whp on pump ,benson sleeves, 15psi, stock axles, gsr tranny w/quaife lsd 2 years no broken parts yet </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was thinking of Enjo axles but they were expensive and my main supplier discontinued them so out of the window they go. He recommended drive shop axles or something ..
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 09:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yakuza &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One question though, has anyone weight their block or know what a B16 block weight?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To pack it right you are looking at around 65-70 pds.
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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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You can also try Clockwise Motion at 01527 871191

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info@clockwisemotion.co.uk

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 03:38 PM
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You are going to have to figure out the exchange rate before you decide not to ship your block to the US. Many times it is cheaper to pay the shipping charges then to get the work done in the UK, especially now when the dollar is low compared to the pound.

I do blocks for people all over the world including the UK. I bill the duty invoice as repair and return. That cuts down a lot on the duty payment on the customer's end.

I do Darton's sleeving here in the states and am one of the MID sleeve patent holders and designers. So I know what the deal is on the sleeve installations. The block the fellow has a photo of in this thread, which was sleeved in the UK has the number 2 sleeve in backwards. If you notice there are more coolant holes in the sleeve flange on one side than the other. The side with the extra holes goes towards the front (exhaust) side of the engine. This to provide more coolant where it is most needed.

Yes, some blocks will break through in the "U" shaped groove area. This is easily fixed with high temp epoxy.

The MID blocks must be finish honed with deck plate attached with the fasteners torqued as they will be during assembly. The deck plate must also be in place when the main bearing bores are being align honed. Again with the same exact fasteners and torque you will be using for assembly. Attention to detail both in the machine work to install the sleeves and the finish work make a big difference in the performance or lack of in the finished engine.

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Old Dec 5, 2007 | 05:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Steve D &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You are going to have to figure out the exchange rate before you decide not to ship your block to the US. Many times it is cheaper to pay the shipping charges then to get the work done in the UK, especially now when the dollar is low compared to the pound.

I do blocks for people all over the world including the UK. I bill the duty invoice as repair and return. That cuts down a lot on the duty payment on the customer's end.

I do Darton's sleeving here in the states and am one of the MID sleeve patent holders and designers. So I know what the deal is on the sleeve installations. The block the fellow has a photo of in this thread, which was sleeved in the UK has the number 2 sleeve in backwards. If you notice there are more coolant holes in the sleeve flange on one side than the other. The side with the extra holes goes towards the front (exhaust) side of the engine. This to provide more coolant where it is most needed.

Yes, some blocks will break through in the "U" shaped groove area. This is easily fixed with high temp epoxy.

The MID blocks must be finish honed with deck plate attached with the fasteners torqued as they will be during assembly. The deck plate must also be in place when the main bearing bores are being align honed. Again with the same exact fasteners and torque you will be using for assembly. Attention to detail both in the machine work to install the sleeves and the finish work make a big difference in the performance or lack of in the finished engine.

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You might be right, I counted the wholes and one side there is 9 and the other 8 which is something I can live with. My concern is the main pressing and installation it self and not find the sleeves have sunk after a while.

I will bear that all into consideration when starting the next project, a H22a turbo charged and installed into a civic hatch back.
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