AzntaggeR

here's the situation. i'm pretty strapped for time to install my turbo kit and i basically have just today to put it together. this is also my daily driver so i need it to get my around. i ordered a tial wastegate taht should be coming in any day now, and was wondering if i could hook up the turbo without a wastegate (for now) and not hook up a charge pipe and just drive around (like a granny of course). i WILL NOT be in boost, and will try to keep it in vacuum as much as i can.

you guys think it can damage the turbo in any way? i've heard that if you run it like that, the turbo will overspin due to no kind of backpressure, and will blow an oil seal very easily.

B20C1T

i wouldn't do it, why can't you wait until the waistgate comes in? another problem i can think of is, what about the open exhaust manifold where the waistgate would mount? i say don't do it.

Seraph0

Hmm.... yes.... very bad idea

turbo overspins
open intake (no filter)
open hold in exhaust manifold for exhaust to spew out everywhere

B20C1T

yeah it could get very messy. just wait until you get your waistgate and do it the right way the first time.

dustin

bad idea

AzntaggeR

if i were to do it, i would use the block off plate for where the wastegate wouldn't be. i guess i'll just wait on it then.

b16sedan

And then you'd have all that exhaust flow going through the turbine, and no reistance to spin it down. Say hello to a destroyed turbo.

BlueShadow

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Doing it this way will actually blow your motor. ALL of your exhaust flow will be going out through the turbine and your boost level will be unlimited. Remember, a wastegate maintains the same boost level by diverting exhaust gasses around the turbine. It only lets enough exhaust gasses through the turbine to maintain your desired boost level.

redzcstandardhatch

he said he will NOT be in boost.

theoretically you could drive it around just fine if you babied it...

and blocked off the mount for the wastegate.

dont boost at all.....

b16sedan

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said he will NOT be in boost.

theoretically you could drive it around just fine if you babied it...

and blocked off the mount for the wastegate.

dont boost at all.....

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Do you understand what he's saying? He wants to disconnect the compressor piping, putting no resistance on the compressor. This means you have no way to limit wheel speeds, and it will reach max speeds MUCH sooner when it doesn't have to fight any resistance.

BlueShadow

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by redzcstandardhatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">he said he will NOT be in boost.

theoretically you could drive it around just fine if you babied it...

and blocked off the mount for the wastegate.

dont boost at all.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

opps, forgot about that

If he does stay out of boost then I would say he can use a block off plate for the WG hole. At least the engine bay wont have the exhaust coming out of the WG hole. And if he does use a WG block of plate then he can also go ahead and leave the IC piping ALL connected. That way he doesn't do any damage to the turbo from leaving the IC piping not connected.

If he does all that and <u>stays out of boost</u>, then I dont see why he cant drive it around.

EDIT: so here's what I think
-use a WG block off plate
-leave all IC piping hooked up
-DO NOT BOOST IT

and he'll be fine, as long as he has his fuel setup working ok too. I still think it's risky, but if I had to do it that's what I'd do.

adseguy

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EDIT: so here's what I think
-use a WG block off plate
-leave all IC piping hooked up
-DO NOT BOOST IT

and he'll be fine, as long as he has his fuel setup working ok too. I still think it's risky, but if I had to do it that's what I'd do.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you have to do it.....do it this way. Patience is a virtue

14bcoupe

your right,it actually can be done as long as you stay out off boost, i think back at the situation when my internal gate flapper just fell off, which is the same as having no wastegate at all, i still drove home that way.for external if its not there then i would think it would be the same.
But with turbo lots of patience is needed so y not just wait for the wastegate and not have to worry about anything

AzntaggeR

thanks for all the replies. i already started putting together my kit, and i probably won't drive it until my wastegate arrives. hopefully by saturday. spark racing didn't even ship it out yet, so i gave them a call today and theyr'e gonna UPS overnight it to me.