Ok Big Problem - Overflow EXPLODING When I Boost Hard. Solution?
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So what is it then?
So what is it then?
i had same issues long time ago. i switched to a koyo racing radiator and it solved the issue. I wnt with koyo because it's bigger than the others, the end tanks are larger and flow more, and it's lifetime warranty. i got mine from http://www.radiator.com
Another 40 min drive yeilded no coolant loss, i think the little rad leak caused that
I did not boost a single pound on that drive though, now Im gonna drive around with some boost and see if it overflows
Is it possible to have a blown gasket so only that when you boost itll pressurize the system, or would it always
I did not boost a single pound on that drive though, now Im gonna drive around with some boost and see if it overflows
Is it possible to have a blown gasket so only that when you boost itll pressurize the system, or would it always
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Another 40 min drive yeilded no coolant loss, i think the little rad leak caused that
I did not boost a single pound on that drive though, now Im gonna drive around with some boost and see if it overflows
Is it possible to have a blown gasket so only that when you boost itll pressurize the system, or would it always</TD></TR></TABLE>
Of course it's not going to overflow if you don't boost. The SOHC heads lift IN boost.
What are you tuned with (don't feel like reading)?
I did not boost a single pound on that drive though, now Im gonna drive around with some boost and see if it overflows
Is it possible to have a blown gasket so only that when you boost itll pressurize the system, or would it always</TD></TR></TABLE>
Of course it's not going to overflow if you don't boost. The SOHC heads lift IN boost.
What are you tuned with (don't feel like reading)?
Tuned with turboedit
I just went for an hour long drive, drove for about 10 min then I boosted a good 2-3-4 run and the temp gauge showed that I overheated
So I pulled over, let the car cool for 20 min while i ate, came back out expecting to have to fill the coolant back up AND IT WAS STILL FULL, also the overflow wasnt bubbling
hmmmmmmmm, wtf
So I went out into the country just to expletive around, drove normal with no boost for about 20 min then I boosted a 5th gear pass maybe 5 pounds and the temps didnt move, this encouraged me to throw 15pounds at it full throttle and whatdya know, coolant overflowing.
My manual gauge shows 150 - 190 though so I drove it back home even though the stock gaug was up there. Pulled in my driveway and the overflow was going pretty furiously
Im gonna wait for it to cool down then go see if I lost any coolant
I just went for an hour long drive, drove for about 10 min then I boosted a good 2-3-4 run and the temp gauge showed that I overheated
So I pulled over, let the car cool for 20 min while i ate, came back out expecting to have to fill the coolant back up AND IT WAS STILL FULL, also the overflow wasnt bubbling
hmmmmmmmm, wtf
So I went out into the country just to expletive around, drove normal with no boost for about 20 min then I boosted a 5th gear pass maybe 5 pounds and the temps didnt move, this encouraged me to throw 15pounds at it full throttle and whatdya know, coolant overflowing.
My manual gauge shows 150 - 190 though so I drove it back home even though the stock gaug was up there. Pulled in my driveway and the overflow was going pretty furiously
Im gonna wait for it to cool down then go see if I lost any coolant
omg. you are in denial or something. do you expect the car to fix itself or something??? stop ******* around and beating on your car. just fix the damn thing, the correct way.
Kid.... It's people like you that give honda owners a bad name.... STUF, figure out your car, stop asking for adive, and Have fun blowing this up.
As for everyone else... Why are you still posting advice to this dipshit that hasn't listened in 4 pages..... let him do what he wants!
As for everyone else... Why are you still posting advice to this dipshit that hasn't listened in 4 pages..... let him do what he wants!
Well I found a spare z6 headgasket so Im gonna go ahead and pull the head now
I know I may seem stubborn or whatever but the problem I have doesnt seem common. Also, I dont have a garage, I live in a townhouse complex, its not exactly kocher to swap heads, drain coolant and change oil in the parking lotl lol
Oh well, Hopefully the head isnt warped, I'll post picks in like 2 hours I guess, this turbos gonna be a bitch to get out
I know I may seem stubborn or whatever but the problem I have doesnt seem common. Also, I dont have a garage, I live in a townhouse complex, its not exactly kocher to swap heads, drain coolant and change oil in the parking lotl lol
Oh well, Hopefully the head isnt warped, I'll post picks in like 2 hours I guess, this turbos gonna be a bitch to get out
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I just went for an hour long drive, drove for about 10 min then I boosted a good 2-3-4 run and the temp gauge showed that I overheated
So I pulled over, let the car cool for 20 min while i ate, came back out expecting to have to fill the coolant back up AND IT WAS STILL FULL, also the overflow wasnt bubbling
hmmmmmmmm, wtf
So I went out into the country just to expletive around, drove normal with no boost for about 20 min then I boosted a 5th gear pass maybe 5 pounds and the temps didnt move, this encouraged me to throw 15pounds at it full throttle and whatdya know, coolant overflowing.
My manual gauge shows 150 - 190 though so I drove it back home even though the stock gaug was up there. Pulled in my driveway and the overflow was going pretty furiously
Im gonna wait for it to cool down then go see if I lost any coolant</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are a idiot. Plain and simple.
I just went for an hour long drive, drove for about 10 min then I boosted a good 2-3-4 run and the temp gauge showed that I overheated
So I pulled over, let the car cool for 20 min while i ate, came back out expecting to have to fill the coolant back up AND IT WAS STILL FULL, also the overflow wasnt bubbling
hmmmmmmmm, wtf
So I went out into the country just to expletive around, drove normal with no boost for about 20 min then I boosted a 5th gear pass maybe 5 pounds and the temps didnt move, this encouraged me to throw 15pounds at it full throttle and whatdya know, coolant overflowing.
My manual gauge shows 150 - 190 though so I drove it back home even though the stock gaug was up there. Pulled in my driveway and the overflow was going pretty furiously
Im gonna wait for it to cool down then go see if I lost any coolant</TD></TR></TABLE>
You are a idiot. Plain and simple.
Head is pulled, letting the oil drip out of it before i inspect its straightness
As far as the headgasket, all of the circles around the cylinders are intact with no breaks in the gasket leading to the coolant passages
There is however a blown section at the top of the gasket on the #3 cylinder where 2 layers of gasket are missing and on the second cylinder that area is cracking
heres a pic of whats blown apart, I dont think this would cause coolant to be burned though would it. Also, the gasket was pretty oily, I dont know if thats from pulling the head or not though
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3355551
As far as the headgasket, all of the circles around the cylinders are intact with no breaks in the gasket leading to the coolant passages
There is however a blown section at the top of the gasket on the #3 cylinder where 2 layers of gasket are missing and on the second cylinder that area is cracking
heres a pic of whats blown apart, I dont think this would cause coolant to be burned though would it. Also, the gasket was pretty oily, I dont know if thats from pulling the head or not though
http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3355551
So you finally pulled your head gasket and it's obviously broken/damaged in places? Who the hell would have thought!?!?
And - if I read correctly - you're planning on using a "spare" Z6 head gasket that you found somewhere to rebuild your car? Are you ******* serious? You need new headstuds, you need a new headgasket and you need to do something about the almost certainly damaged head you're using.
If you have spare D16's laying around USE THE HEAD FROM ONE OF THEM! Jesus Christ, child. Do we have to hit you with a stick to make you understand logic? We have done this before to much success. We know what we're doing. You obviously don't. If you keep doing things your way, you'll go from a car with a simple problem to a car with catastrophic damage.
Also, can you post your tune?
And - if I read correctly - you're planning on using a "spare" Z6 head gasket that you found somewhere to rebuild your car? Are you ******* serious? You need new headstuds, you need a new headgasket and you need to do something about the almost certainly damaged head you're using.
If you have spare D16's laying around USE THE HEAD FROM ONE OF THEM! Jesus Christ, child. Do we have to hit you with a stick to make you understand logic? We have done this before to much success. We know what we're doing. You obviously don't. If you keep doing things your way, you'll go from a car with a simple problem to a car with catastrophic damage.
Also, can you post your tune?
Your headgasket doesnt have to look bad to be blown(replace with brand spanking new gasket Man!!!!!), also make sure you inspect your sleeves very carefully. You were pressurizing your coolant system somewhere. I hope you start listening to what everyone is telling you. Everything I have read from other people on this thread is accurate but yours, so start listening!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You dont want to get the idiot of the year award do you?
You dont want to get the idiot of the year award do you?
Well I just went and bought a straight aluminum ruler from Home depot and the head seems straight as an arrow from end to end, across and diagonally
Yes I have a spare a6 built motor here but it has some bent valve in the head
The customer only got 80 miles out of that motor before he missshifted and I just pulled the gasket out of it and it looks brand new so Im gonna use that as well as order a cometic that wont be here for 2 weeks
Im gonna spray it with copperspray aswell, clean the head and block surfaces with some red scothbrite and then reinstall....
hope all goes well
Yes I have a spare a6 built motor here but it has some bent valve in the head
The customer only got 80 miles out of that motor before he missshifted and I just pulled the gasket out of it and it looks brand new so Im gonna use that as well as order a cometic that wont be here for 2 weeks
Im gonna spray it with copperspray aswell, clean the head and block surfaces with some red scothbrite and then reinstall....
hope all goes well
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hope all goes well</TD></TR></TABLE>
1.) it won't go well
2.) reinstall with...........(looking for "new ARP headstuds" or "something other than the set of nine ARPs I now own")
3.) show me your tune. I need a giggle.
hope all goes well</TD></TR></TABLE>
1.) it won't go well
2.) reinstall with...........(looking for "new ARP headstuds" or "something other than the set of nine ARPs I now own")
3.) show me your tune. I need a giggle.
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This is the part that I like :D After you've already suffered a head gasket failure and been told several times to get a new _STOCK_ one, you're gonna take that used one. You suck :D
This is the part that I like :D After you've already suffered a head gasket failure and been told several times to get a new _STOCK_ one, you're gonna take that used one. You suck :D
maybe you dont understand the situation, I live in a butfuck town, no real stores. I have to work monday morning 35miles from home with no parents to drive me
The downright fastest I could have this gasket, paying for overnight delivery is wednesday. I dont have til wednesday, so yeah I threw on the used gasket
I do however have another problem, Ive snapped a second arp stud
I dont know whats going on with these studs, they are absolutely bottomed out, I torqued in the correct pattern to 25 ft/lbs, then 55 ft/lbs and everything was fine. When I stepped up to 80 ft/lbs the middle lower stud snapped. Just like the last one, flush with the bottom of the nut
I dont get why they break, the nut after the 55ft/lbs torque didnt feel to get any tighter through the 1/4 turn I slowly brought it through and then it snapped.
The downright fastest I could have this gasket, paying for overnight delivery is wednesday. I dont have til wednesday, so yeah I threw on the used gasket
I do however have another problem, Ive snapped a second arp stud
I dont know whats going on with these studs, they are absolutely bottomed out, I torqued in the correct pattern to 25 ft/lbs, then 55 ft/lbs and everything was fine. When I stepped up to 80 ft/lbs the middle lower stud snapped. Just like the last one, flush with the bottom of the nut
I dont get why they break, the nut after the 55ft/lbs torque didnt feel to get any tighter through the 1/4 turn I slowly brought it through and then it snapped.
I've never snapped an ARP stud. Ever.
Here's your tune:

So what kind of boost are you putting this through? I set your fuel trim to "duty cycle" and even though TurboEdit is a bare-bones program with no labeling of units and very little flexibility, it would seem that - if the top line of each graph is boost in inches Hg and you're actually putting 1 bar through that engine with some frequency - you're playing a dangerous game. Even if the top line is in Psi, you're still teetering on what I would consider the ragged edge.
What kind of boost are you seeing daily, what kind of injectors are you running and is this a homemade map or a placeholder that you got offline?
Here's your tune:

So what kind of boost are you putting this through? I set your fuel trim to "duty cycle" and even though TurboEdit is a bare-bones program with no labeling of units and very little flexibility, it would seem that - if the top line of each graph is boost in inches Hg and you're actually putting 1 bar through that engine with some frequency - you're playing a dangerous game. Even if the top line is in Psi, you're still teetering on what I would consider the ragged edge.
What kind of boost are you seeing daily, what kind of injectors are you running and is this a homemade map or a placeholder that you got offline?
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PINKS »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well I just went and bought a straight aluminum ruler from Home depot and the head seems straight as an arrow from end to end, across and diagonally
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LOL
I honestly don't know what to say.
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LOL
I honestly don't know what to say.
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I dont know whats going on with these studs, they are absolutely bottomed out, I torqued in the correct pattern to 25 ft/lbs, then 55 ft/lbs and everything was fine. When I stepped up to 80 ft/lbs the middle lower stud snapped. Just like the last one, flush with the bottom of the nut
I dont get why they break, the nut after the 55ft/lbs torque didnt feel to get any tighter through the 1/4 turn I slowly brought it through and then it snapped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe the fact they stretched and you keep trying to TQ them after people told you time and time again to get new ones?
I dont know whats going on with these studs, they are absolutely bottomed out, I torqued in the correct pattern to 25 ft/lbs, then 55 ft/lbs and everything was fine. When I stepped up to 80 ft/lbs the middle lower stud snapped. Just like the last one, flush with the bottom of the nut
I dont get why they break, the nut after the 55ft/lbs torque didnt feel to get any tighter through the 1/4 turn I slowly brought it through and then it snapped.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Maybe the fact they stretched and you keep trying to TQ them after people told you time and time again to get new ones?
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LOL
I honestly don't know what to say.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes you do, you're just too polite to say it
LOL
I honestly don't know what to say.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes you do, you're just too polite to say it
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Yes you do, you're just too polite to say it
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I know
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Yes you do, you're just too polite to say it
</TD></TR></TABLE>I know
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