xero-cool

I am looking at purchasing a Mitsubishi 17C Turbo from ebay as I know the seller personally.

Pictures of the turbo can be seen at :

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ndexURL=0&rd=1

It has a Garrett style 4 bolt T3 flange with 3 bolt downpipe flange.

I plan on running stock internals with maybe hondata in the future. As for now the plan is to run a simple FMU with max 6psi boost....small intercooler.

My question: Is it worth my time trying to use it for my B18B1 integra

1. It should bolt right up to a Revhard/Drag manifold right? What kind of downpipe can I use for that configuration? Stock drag/revhard 2.5 inch with flex pipe work? Will I see boost creep because of the internal wastegate?

2. How does it compare to a T3/TO4E in terms of reliability (it is water cooled) and efficiency/power/spool time.

3. Will there be any fitment issues? (Shaving block/slim fans/etc.)

4. Downsides to using this turbo that I didn't think of? Wrong size/Lotsa Lag/Too old?

5. What should I check for when I go see the turbo for myself? How do you know whether there is turbo shaft play or not?

Sorry for the tonne of newbie questions but I really want be part of the darkside....



[Modified by xero-cool, 11:47 PM 5/10/2002]

xero-cool

ttt Nobody can help me out?

Mike D

nice name.

wish i could help, just had to comment.

Mike D

xero-cool

thanks

Anybody else have any ideas?

xero-cool

TTT
Please please?

bigTom

My question: Is it worth my time trying to use it for my B18B1 integra
imo now it is not worth it... its a really small turbo and will die out up top... once again this is my opinion

1. It should bolt right up to a Revhard/Drag manifold right? What kind of downpipe can I use for that configuration? Stock drag/revhard 2.5 inch with flex pipe work? Will I see boost creep because of the internal wastegate?

it will bolt up granted it really is a t3 flange i didnt look at the measurement that closely) a stock drag/revhard dp will not work... they have 5 bolt flanges while this one requires a 3 bolt

2. How does it compare to a T3/TO4E in terms of reliability (it is water cooled) and efficiency/power/spool time.

as long as the car is idled after any amount of harder running... the water jacket doesnt matter... some people swear by them... but u really dont need them

3. Will there be any fitment issues? (Shaving block/slim fans/etc.)

its a pretty small turbo but i cant be for sure... i wouldnt want to give u the wrong anwser

4. Downsides to using this turbo that I didn't think of? Wrong size/Lotsa Lag/Too old?

well it says it has some shaft play... thats not a good sign... i mean all turbos have some... it depends how much... lag will generally non-existant with this turbo... i believe it is the wrong size as it is too small... and i have no idea how old it is

5. What should I check for when I go see the turbo for myself? How do you know whether there is turbo shaft play or not?

this is something u have to have experience in... if u dont know what it should feel like... then u wont be able to tell... i mean if there is extreme shaft play... then u know its bad

Sorry for the tonne of newbie questions but I really want be part of the darkside....

everyone starts someplace

[Modified by xero-cool, 11:47 PM 5/10/2002][/QUOTE]

xero-cool

thanks for the reply ek9t...I appreciate it.

But I was wondering why you say it is a small turbo. It's pretty big and 550 cfm is quite a lot of airflow (If I am not mistaken at 73% efficiency the TO4E 40 trim flows about 440 cfm)




[Modified by xero-cool, 8:09 AM 5/13/2002]

bigTom

the 40 trim is also really tiny... the all around turbo for todays honda street cars is at least a 57 trim... anything smaller and u wont be makeing much power...