<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bryson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would have to say http://www.Summitracing.com</TD></TR></TABLE>

Talk to Terry @ Boostfed.com, he can probably match summit's monopolistic prices for you

 

bringin' an old thread back. Do you have to run SC coil or could I run the hvc II coil instead.

 

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yeah, i wanna know the same too. Since I have the SS blaster coil (four of them). Especially when the SC coil now is on back order for a month.

 

so i guess i CAN use the MSD blaster SS coil instead of the SC? I see it installed in the engine bay of tonys car but i noticed on the summit site that the SS coil has male/HEI connections and the SC coil comes with female connections. so would this be a problem?? and also is the msd wire harness for the distrubtor PN#8864? and dose the dissy come with a rotor or do i have to order it too?? just making sure.


Modified by Turbo Toyz at 4:21 PM 5/27/2006

 

all you have to order is the dizzy and the ignitor since you already have a coil. you can also order the msd wires for the dizzy becuase they have the ends on them your going to need to connect them to the cap. the msd ignitors are back ordered. i have an extra one if someone needs it. this in the package, brand new and unopened

 

New connectors are sent with the distributor, so all you have to do is cut the ends off your current plug wires and put the new ones on.

 

MSD says you are supposed to use the new SC coil with it... but tony is using the SS and says its fine... so they prolly just say that so you have to spend more money.

I just bought all new stuff instead of reusing my old coil.

 

dunkd: car is looking good, cant wait to see u @ LVD

 

It looks like this car has a MSD Dizzy with the MSD PRO POWER COIL and 7 series ignition box. http://forums.evans-tuning.com...art=0

 

They redesigned the ss coil to be able to screw together with the coil driver that goes with the MSD dizzy. The only difference was the outer casing. BTW I'm very happy w/ mine

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">MSD says you are supposed to use the new SC coil with it... but tony is using the SS and says its fine... so they prolly just say that so you have to spend more money.
I just bought all new stuff instead of reusing my old coil.
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The SS and SC coil just have different style terminals... Anyway, the MSD setup has been running on my car for 2 months daily driven 5 times a week. So far so good, and the engine doesn't even hiccup a bit with my spark plug gap out of whack + water injection. The car also picked up 40 km per tank of gas, so maybe about 2-3 years later down the road the gas savings would pay for the MSD unit itself

 

whats your hp level at tony?

I was planning on using a COP ignition setup with my aem ems, but it seems like using this unit would be a little more simple.

 

im debating between this dizzy or going full blown coil on plug. hmm

 

Power level is at 383ish WHP, GT2871R @ 18 psi. The water injection takes a hit on the ignition system as it requires a bit more strength to prevent the engine from misfiring or bogging.

 

see thats my only concern. Im seriously contemplating this, but my power level is expected to be at 650+whp on a full tune

 

yea, ill be making 900whp+ or so and my concern is reliability of the msd at high power levels and rpm (10k+)

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea, ill be making 900whp+ or so and my concern is reliability of the msd at high power levels and rpm (10k+)</TD></TR></TABLE>

well i wont be making quite so much power, but i will be reving about 9500 or so, so yea, reliability is definitely an issue.

Stupid question, but does msd provide any sort of warrenty coverage for this thing?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Code Blue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats your hp level at tony?

I was planning on using a COP ignition setup with my aem ems, but it seems like using this unit would be a little more simple. </TD></TR></TABLE>

you can use the msd dizzy with COP.

 

what purpose would that serve... youd pay for the dizzy then the coilpacks. although it would be esaier because you could use the hall sensor to trigger the coils. but i dont get it

 

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when your experiencing ignition problems, its more than likely the signal not getting to the ECU. Most people think installing a ignition amp to make a bigger spark will fix the problem, it won't. the msd dizzy is an alternative for the people with ignition problem that are not running a standalone EMS. you can run the msd dizzy in a stock configuration( dizzy,coil and ignitor) or you can use the dizzy for the picks with the COP.

EDIT: you can use the msd dizzy with cop if you running a ECU with more than one coil output

 

How do u use it with COP setup?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Code Blue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see thats my only concern. Im seriously contemplating this, but my power level is expected to be at 650+whp on a full tune</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://forums.evans-tuning.com...art=0

This was the link posted above... At least we know the MSD pro billet could support that kind of power. Longevity-wise, pretty much all the available setups out there is at question except for 100% OEM. All other systems have yet to be proven reliable long term, except maybe on race cars and weekend warriors. There are proven setups that work well on a big power track car however, and I am sure Tony1 could recommend some good setups (but of course, you need to pay for the good stuff)

 

Good link Tony^

 

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http://forums.evans-tuning.com...art=0

This was the link posted above... At least we know the MSD pro billet could support that kind of power. Longevity-wise, pretty much all the available setups out there is at question except for 100% OEM. All other systems have yet to be proven reliable long term, except maybe on race cars and weekend warriors. There are proven setups that work well on a big power track car however, and I am sure Tony1 could recommend some good setups (but of course, you need to pay for the good stuff) </TD></TR></TABLE>


I wonder what the issue was they were having with not being able to rev past 8900rpm?

 

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I wonder what the issue was they were having with not being able to rev past 8900rpm? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Looks like there was a bit of boost creep on the dyno chart.. Could be some tunning issues that has yet to be sorted out at the higher boost regions? My engine sees 9200-9400RPM, and above 7000RPM is where I felt the biggest difference vs the factory distributor. The engine is just that smoother with the MSD.