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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:22 AM
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Al right guys I have and 95 hb w/ a LS swap,
I cant decide what i want!! I think a turbo setup is just going to be to much money for me to risk uninsured, i.e. if it gets stolen (welocme to houston ) or someone totals it (welsome to houston again ), I will be out some serious cash.

So I am thinking of going the n20 route, anywhere bewteen a 50-100 wet shot. I was reading through this month's SCC and noticed one of thier RSX was on the giggle, 50hp wet. I ran through his setup and it had the basic bolt-on's.

my question is that they were using a single wet fogger and it was right behind the filter element on thier intake. I thought the wet systems were installed on the intake manifold i.e. drilled into the maniflod?

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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:29 AM
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Well first off your on the right track about going wet over dry . I also thought they had the plumb the lines into the intake manifold. Direct port is the best way to use nitrous because each cylinder gets a = share of juice.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 10:47 AM
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do you mean you have no insurance at all?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 11:40 AM
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If I show them the receipt my insurance company covers the items in my car. Rates go up though.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 01:01 PM
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Ok I have to flame here, a single fogger wet kit should only be used with a turbo or supercharged car. The reason being is that you will get poor fuel distribution and puddling. A NOS Drymanifold kit is limited to 60 hp but is the correct kit to use. If you are looking for bigger gains then a NOS direct port kit is needed.

Here is some info from NOS' website
Owners of imported vehicles can benefit from nitrous power, as NOS has developed safe, reliable and highly effective kits that produce from 40 to 60 hp for a large number of applications. Most of these employ "dry" injection technology, where the OEM fuel injection provides the required additional fuel to the motor only when the nitrous system is armed and activated at W.O.T. (wide open throttle). These systems provide excellent fuel/nitrous distribution to each cylinder, as opposed to the "wet" kits from other manufacturers. However, NOS does recommend "wet" type kits for most turbocharged and supercharged applications due to the increased air velocity and extra heat from the forced induction. With over 20 years experience, NOS knows what it takes to make power...safely and reliably!


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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:34 PM
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do you mean you have no insurance at all?
yes I have ins. my uncle works for the ins. company that covers me he told me that w/ the engine swap they will drop my *** like a bad habit.


Ok I have to flame here, a single fogger wet kit should only be used with a turbo or supercharged car. The reason being is that you will get poor fuel distribution and puddling,
I have never heard of this maybe you can expand on the "puddling." I would think tha this kit would be alot better than a dry. my issue is plumbing all of those dam manifold lines in the direct port kit. the only other kit I like is the plate but since i dont have a gsr.......

just got home so here is the kit that the FAL/1320 RSX Type-S it is a NOS single-jet wet fogger system. The problem I have with the above statement is that these companies have a large budget and they decide on this kit, if it was an issue wouldnt they go with a dircet port kit?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:50 PM
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I have never heard of this maybe you can expand on the "puddling." I would think tha this kit would be alot better than a dry. my issue is plumbing all of those dam manifold lines in the direct port kit. the only other kit I like is the plate but since i dont have a gsr.......
Simply, some of the fuel that is introduced thru the nitrous jets does not actually make it to the cumbustion chamber. Also, there is poor distrubution of fuel between the cylinders.

More in depth...a single fogger wet system injects both fuel and nitrous through one jet at one point in the intake pipe. The problem with this on a NA car is that some of the fuel does not reach the cylinder. I am sure you can see why this is a problem. With a FI car there is a "push" to get the fuel there.

Another problem occurs because there is no way to get an equal amount of fuel to each cylinder. One cylinder running rich while the other is lean is not good.

The direct port kit solves this problem by adding both fuel and nitrous through 4 (or 6 or 8 depending on number of cylinders) foggers located in the intake manifold. The jets are much closer to the cumbustion chamber thus reducing puddling. Also an equal amount is added to each cylinder. The disadvantages include price and difficulty of install.

Hope that helped.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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i think NOS just came out with a new kit that places the nitrous jet on the injector. I am not sure though. check out NOS's site.
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Old May 21, 2002 | 03:59 PM
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I guess my next question is on the kit that runs for turbo and s/c apps wouldnt the n20 and the fuel also be unequally distrubted because of the shear velocity of the intake flow after the s/c or turbo?
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Old May 21, 2002 | 04:05 PM
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I guess my next question is on the kit that runs for turbo and s/c apps wouldnt the n20 and the fuel also be unequally distrubted because of the shear velocity of the intake flow after the s/c or turbo?
I have no evidence to back this up. But I would think so. The only way I would ever run nitrous is direct port or a plate. There is a guy selling a skunk 2 IM and direct port NOS kit in the classifieds. $700. Worth a look.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=180920
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Old May 21, 2002 | 05:42 PM
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thanks
ur website is badass btw, can u tell me which car has n2o?
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