PM-Performance

Just like the topic says , what are people getting HP wise with their Hondatas and is it handling it . I have one and its working good for the most part, everything will have its tweaks. . . But what i want to know is when will this thing get to the point where it wont support anymore due to being a piggyback off the stock ecu ? I dont know that i will ever see that point , but i need to start thinking of that now as my car it turning into a whole new beast. I need to knwo if its time to start looking for something new.

Thanks for the input.

PrecisionH23a

Hondata 4b with 423 whp at 20psi no problems what so ever. Next year i plan on upgrading to the s200 so i can run nitrous as well off of the line.

PM-Performance

I have the 4b also , i have seen probs with the new software , soi never switched .
How is Hondata for 500-600 or so . thats my concern .

ladysman

I guess my take on all of this is I am not sure Hondata is the limiting factor here. The only thing Hondata is limited to is the 29lbs of boost by the 3 bar map sensor. Other than that, I don't see it limiting HP in anyway. Granted, your fuel system needs to be there to make the power.

PM-Performance

see i wasnt sure if becuase its not a true standalone that it might be limited to what it can do with still working with the stock ecu , MOdified or not . i always hear this, but its not proven , so i wanted to think what some of the bigger guys are doing with these things.

ladysman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see i wasnt sure if becuase its not a true standalone that it might be limited to what it can do with still working with the stock ecu , MOdified or not . i always hear this, but its not proven , so i wanted to think what some of the bigger guys are doing with these things. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not one of the "bigger guys" but I do my own tuning (with the advice Boosted Hybrid ) as I don't have anyone close to me that has any idea what Hondata is (closest being Payn Tech about 8 hours away). Doing my own tuning and knowing the software, I see no limitations other than what I stated above. Again, the fuel will be there.

As far as Hondata not being a true standalone, I don't really care about that, if you can adjust the fuel and timing points and as well a gazillion other things like control nitrous, it is "standalone" enough for me.

I am running on 800cc injectors and it runs like stock and hauls *** at 11lbs of boost.

Oh, another reason to get the S200 is for the Romulator function. It is the best thing since lotion came on Kleenexes.

HTH

PM-Performance

the reason i havent switched is becuase everytime Jeff tunes mine on his S series it always gets blips and so does DC2R714's, his is still there ebcuas ehe runs s series. Jeff went nuts many times to get rid of it and no go , we converty back to my B series hondata and everything runs fine, so thats wh i didnt switch .

ladysman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the reason i havent switched is becuase everytime Jeff tunes mine on his S series it always gets blips and so does DC2R714's, his is still there ebcuas ehe runs s series. Jeff went nuts many times to get rid of it and no go , we converty back to my B series hondata and everything runs fine, so thats wh i didnt switch . </TD></TR></TABLE>

Jeff has been a big help to me but I haven't has any issues.........yet. Although I haven't switched to the 3 bar sensor yet. At this point, I really have no reason to complain.

PM-Performance

see what ha[ppenss with the bar. he had a few probs with them too .

ladysman

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">see what ha[ppenss with the bar. he had a few probs with them too . </TD></TR></TABLE>

Jeff mentioned the resolution is completely wack on the 3 bar and I will have to retune. I am not messing with it until the motor goes in during the winter months. It will need broke in so I will just tune while breaking it in. If it is bad, I will switch back to the stock map sensor. I even thought about buying a 3 bar from Hondata (Who use Motec sensors instead of GM....so they say) to see if that makes a difference.