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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 03:11 PM
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I received my new manifold today. It is for a Honda D-series and has a T-3 flange. Originally I was planning to swap out the T-3 flange for a TD05 flange, in order to continue to use my DSM TD05, but from looking at the manifold this will be difficult. If I weld on the TD05 flange I will have no room for my bolts and I will be in the same boat I am now, with constant exhaust leaks due to a poorly engineered collector. (Recall that I hand made my current manifold) I am also swapping the Honda flange for my Kia Mi-Tech flange, but this is a non-issue because the ports are identical to within a millimeter.

So I am seriously considering losing the TD05 and installing a T-3. But I know nothing about the T-3 and need help deciding what I need.

My current setup:



DSM TD05
hand-made manifold, inverted configuration
hand-made downpipe, IC pipes, etc.

For the T-3, I will want the following characteristics:

-Oil lubricated and water cooled

-Internal or external wastegate: Don't care, but internal will save me money.

-Small compressor housing so I can use it in the same inverted configuration, with a smaller inlet. I have seen some T-3's with huge inlets, and I have to use a full intake system because I have a MAF sensor, and this system must clear my upper radiator hose.

-A universal turbine housing so I can source the flanges easily and modify my existing downpipe.

-My target horsepower is unchanged: 145 - 160 hp at the flywheel. I will be using 24# injectors, an S-AFCII, and I cannot increase fuel pressure in my car.

-Target redline is 7000.

-Of course, I would like something that will spool quickly and won't have issues with boost spiking.

Right now, I am thinking the smaller .42 A/R compressor T-3's might be my best bet, but I want expert opinions.


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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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Default Re: Help with selecting new turbo (beepy)

i'm not sure of the displacment of the motor but i'd say a T3 Super 60 would be the best bet for your target HP, it's a .63 hot and .60 cold, or you could find someone to make you a T3 with a .48 hot side and the Super 60's wheel and .60 housing if you want a little faster spool
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 04:43 PM
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Oh, sorry. it's 1597cc's.

A super 60? Aren't people making like 400 hp with those?
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:29 PM
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MMk. I don't know anything about this turbo:



But I like the look of it. Water cooled, small compressor, and a V-band downtube is nice. I have no idea what trim it is and neither does the owner.

Anyone seen one before and know if it would be as good or better than my TD05?
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:31 PM
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looks like a t4 , thats thing looks like a monster
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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Default Re: Help with selecting new turbo (B18C1CYA)

you can support those power goals with the smaller OEM t25/28 turbos from DET's.....very little lag, internally gated, but will not make a lot of power though. it wont fit on a t3 turbine flange though.
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Old Jul 31, 2004 | 07:49 PM
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Default Re: Help with selecting new turbo (Full-Race Javier)

Yeah, that is the problem. My turbo works just fine, but my manifold sucks. Got a new manifold thinking I could swap the flanges but the collector is too big for the TD05 flange. So I am looking for a T-3 that will be comparable to my TD05. (Maybe even flow a little better in case I some day want to turn it up)
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 10:09 AM
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Default Re: Help with selecting new turbo (beepy)

No one?

Let me narrow it down then. Does anyone know the specs of the Saab 9000's turbocharger? It appears to be a T-3, and is very compact. The engine it came off of was 2.2 liters.

A pic:



Or, there are these Ford units that come in .48 and .63 compressor:



Which also appear to be water cooled, compact, etc., but which have compressor flanges that may need to be custom-made?

I also like the look of this one:



Because I know it would fit, and it meets all my other specifications. It's a .48.

But I still don't know which compressor size will be best?
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Old Aug 1, 2004 | 04:08 PM
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Well, I decided. I picked up the last one. I hope .48 is better than .63 for my small engine and hp goals.

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