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yeah it really ticks me off as that people always expect people like us to get a budget setup of only 7psi or so for extra 60whp and want us to buy a 1000 fuel system. jesus, some of us just want 7psi and that's it, not everyone is soooo damn interested in the 1/4 and with over 500whp... even when i have the money to build up the internals, the most i'm shooting for is 300whp, that's it, i don't care if i only can ran 13's or whatever, that's not what i want. the power is there for other usages, you don't see the nsx going to every 1/4 track in the world do you!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

yah... also... i don't think i've met one person who is ever satisfied with ONLY 7psi. i only wanted 200hp at the flywheel... then 200whp, now i'm aiming for 400whp...

 

here is the other thread about using the 3 bar with 450cc injectors and changing the input/outputs on the apexi to convert the "gm type siginal" to "honda type voltage signal"
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=531705

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 89dxhunchback &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">here is the other thread about using the 3 bar with 450cc injectors and changing the input/outputs on the apexi to convert the "gm type siginal" to "honda type voltage signal"
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=531705</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool.

liam

 

i have read this many times and have everthing needed for the hack already waiting to be installed , but what i am wondering is, my friend has the hack in his hatch obd1 gsr swap with greddy kit. The car runs like stock and has only a tiny tiny bit of hesitation once in a while, the only thing he gets is a cel once in a while when hovering around 10-11 pounds , can simply putting one of those map check valves fix this? not trying to run over 11 pounds but just too keep the light from coming on ?

 

you should look into using the gm 3 bar sensor the link is a couple posts up

 

OK, sorry guys, but trying to read 9 pages of this is straining my eye's. so if someone wants to be really kind, could someone just post all the settings for me? also are the settings limited to 10 psi? i'd like to run around 12 psi with my afc. i'm running a b16a bottom with internals, a gsr head and a straight T3. car is a 97 civic. also is there a big setting difference in 440cc and 550cc injectors? also would i need to upgrade my map sensor to run higher boost?

thanks.

 

What about using an uberchip? It looks like the best idea for tubo but yet almost nobody use them? I know the guy had some trouble but still his product was flawless from what ive heard, just a $75 chip and an smc and you have perfect ignition and you can tune your fuel

 

J. Davis..

any news on a pr3 chip that retards timing under boost.
on PGMFI board you said that you did the PW0 chip but not the PR3 hi cam.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madeiniraq &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">J. Davis..

any news on a pr3 chip that retards timing under boost.
on PGMFI board you said that you did the PW0 chip but not the PR3 hi cam.

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He did the PR3 also, I have a bin of it somewhere.

 

i have a bin also but he said he didn't modify the hi cam settings..

I can't open the pr3 bin with ghettodyne 2.2 what should i use?

can you email me the bin piggottam@hotmail.com

thanks a lot.

 

Number one reason why a person does the hack instead of a hondata system: He's running an auto tranny.

The only problem I have with a turbo auto is that I'm running into a wall after 11psi. Any suggestions on what to do for more boost? All the stand alones require a 5speed.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stinker504 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Number one reason why a person does the hack instead of a hondata system: He's running an auto tranny.

The only problem I have with a turbo auto is that I'm running into a wall after 11psi. Any suggestions on what to do for more boost? All the stand alones require a 5speed.</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can get a hondata for an auto tranny. I have a friend running a auto accord with a hondata.

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by madeiniraq &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have a bin also but he said he didn't modify the hi cam settings..</TD></TR></TABLE>

You need to reread that thread. I didn't modify the high cam ignition on the one posted previously in the thread and reposted the correct PR3 in that post.

As far as opening the .bin... HRED (unobtainium) can open it, OBD0Edit should be able to if Carsten has dual maps support enabled now (old version opened low cam maps only), and there are a number of spreadsheets available on PGMFI where you can go and calculate each hex value by hand. Yay!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can get a hondata for an auto tranny. I have a friend running a auto accord with a hondata.

liam</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please tell me more about his hondata setup. I was going to not build the block because I thought hondata only worked with manuals. How is it setup? Which system is it? Anything special done to have it work? Please let this be my ticket to higher boost!!!!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by intekragsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sounds great, but why is it called a hack?</TD></TR></TABLE>

BUMP.

 

I don't think it should be called a hack anymore either. It should be another alternative solution for fuel managment.

 

Liam please help with my questions above. I'll be your buddy

 

bump

 

9 pages.. my eyes are killer me but i feel smarter/// liam is awsome.. my one questions to contrinute is, is there any difference in the hack with a non obd non vtec turbo'd ls to 7 psi???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by stinker504 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Please tell me more about his hondata setup. I was going to not build the block because I thought hondata only worked with manuals. How is it setup? Which system is it? Anything special done to have it work? Please let this be my ticket to higher boost!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its just like any other hondata only its for an auto. I believe my friend had the s200b. Nothing special needed...just plug and play like any other honda ecu. You should email doug over at hondata for sure. http://www.hondata.com/

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Quote, originally posted by intekragsr »
sounds great, but why is it called a hack?

BUMP.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well im not sure..i guess because your sorta "hacking" the stock fuel system to deal with compressed air (boost). Although its not so much a hack just because you dont really have to modify anything special. Its pretty much just plug and play nothing weird or special.

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ambition &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">9 pages.. my eyes are killer me but i feel smarter/// liam is awsome.. my one questions to contrinute is, is there any difference in the hack with a non obd non vtec turbo'd ls to 7 psi???</TD></TR></TABLE>

Nope. As far as i know you can use the "Afc hack" with just about any honda. Im sure it would work on an NSX. :-D (anybody out there wanna test that for me?) Ive gotten email from people with just about every model of civic, integra, prelude, and accord out there. From 88-&gt;new.

It will work great!

liam

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by liam821 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can get a hondata for an auto tranny. I have a friend running a auto accord with a hondata. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey friend

stinker504, liam is right. i have a 94 honda accord ex auto w/ a drag 4 turbo kit-stock motor except the skunk2 cam gear. hondata said i had to use their stage 2b system and a p28 auto ecu in order to work-which i have. the p28 ecu was actually a manual but hondata modified it to be an auto. i actually used to run the vafc hack-thanks to liam. i've been boosting 10 psi daily with no problems-just some leaks to take care of. i do, however, need to upgrade/rebuild the auto tranny (just like upgrading a manual tranny when the clutch starts slipping and cannot put the power to the ground.)

 

while we're beatinga dead horse what is the difference (if any) between dsm blue top and black top injectors?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ambition &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">while we're beatinga dead horse what is the difference (if any) between dsm blue top and black top injectors?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Age and spray pattern, the black tops supposivly have an improved spray pattern but performance wise it's not noticed.


Now my question, I'm going to be running the AFC Hack but what is the benefit over GhettoDyne. Do they both have the same partial throttle problems?