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Just out of curiousity, are the head flanges cast and then machined for the injector bosses and runners? From the pictures thats what it looks like.

You guys should take the flanges and throw ITBs on them so the all-motor guys don't feel left out.

I can't wait to see what the D-series one looks like. How about a some D-series exhaust manifolds to go with the intake?

 

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This is the most true statement anyone could have said about Full-Race. Keep up the good work guys.

 

[. How about a some D-series exhaust manifolds to go with the intake? [/QUOTE]

We do have D series turbo manifolds. Almost identical to the B series except for the flange.

 

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the flange is that from the stock mani ? and is this how they are going to be made ? if so is there going to be like a core charge or some thing on them?

 

its a prototype, we are waiting to get the headflanges from our CNC mill

 

hmmmm....nice mani... looks like i got a new part to start saving for

 

cool geoff, that thing will look pimp when its done

 

bump!

 

didn't I see one exactly like this - but carbon fiber? as a matter of fact...I did. Here's the pic:

 

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LOL!!! I suggest you read or reread this entire post before saying something like this so you don't end up looking like a stupid fool!

 

anyone seen the "Virtual Works vs. Veilside - FINALLY flow test results" thread on supraforums.com? it seems the raised velocity stacks impedes the airflow in boost conditions.

http://www.supraforums.com/for...66026

 

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LOL!! okay. I'll pretend to get right on that.

 

whats unfortunate in that test is that in the Veilside, the velocity stacks are a very small diameter, the runners are very short, and the plenum is huge. It is very similar to a JG manifold (comparison to honda). The VW manifold uses a longer runner, with a smaller plenum, and appears to do better, not just in flow but under pressure on a dyno also

the main problem with the veilside is simply the fact that the runners are WAY too short

 

Interresting, alot of engineers at "engineering tips" suggests having runners as short as possible on a turbo car.

 

It's impossible to design something fully depending on calculations....

Some say this work, some say it doesn't... It's simple -- no engines are the same, unless the part is tested on an identical setup. But a test like that will be useless because everyone here has a different setup.

Only time will tell how this manifold will perform among the various turbo combinations. IMO, most of Fullrace products are a well made and are a good buy.

 

the majority of people on engineering tips arent engineers, and very few have much turbocharging experience. If shorter was better, the JG would make more power than an AIR. the AIR manifold has calculated runner lengths, the JG has random runner lengths.

 

Well to stay on that, how do you calculate it if most setups have different temps/pressures to throw into the equation?
Have you got something that honestly works? Would you care to share, I am very interrested in the subject.

Thanks.

 

the best way to research this is to read. http://www.sae.org is the best plce to do research on. It costs about 10 dollars per research paper, but the money supports SAE and the authors of the papers.

 

I bought alot of papers from SAE, none specifically talks about turbo inlet manifold tuning, only NA, and another I bought on plenum design again on NA. If you are thinking of one specific one, please let me know I will buy it, I have no problem supporting SAE.

Thanks.

 

any updates on this?

any new pics to drool over?

 

I've got 10 volumes of SAE books...been reading a lot lately. still looking.

btw pimp manifold I love the stacks!!!! you want to sell me some stacks so I can put them on my neon really tho

big_ern310@hotmail.com

 

I did a search on SAE and found tons of results. Could you suggest some keywords for finding the articles you are speaking of?

 

intake manifold design..................duh

 

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Well it's clear you never did a search on SAE.

 

cant wait to see some dyno numbers vs the competition