geoff, are you going to produce manifolds with the throttle body on the opposite end of the chamber on the intake manifolds for the k series ? so that the throttle body would face the passenger headlight instead of the driver headlight?

 

our k series stuff will be off the hook

the opposite tb is one option, and we will have some other really cool tricks. However, it will be using a civic/teg iac

 

quick OT:

whats the purpose of opposite sided TB on the K-series?

 

Quote, originally posted by Bob-DC2 »
Im all for the full-race intake manifold. but if you have a ls and want a 800-900 dollar intake manifold, then why not spend the same amount of money for a complete type r head with cams, dizzy and intake manifold?
I thought the point of the ls was to do it on the cheap.

either way, the ls intake manifold on a b20b no-vtec would be pretty pimp.


WELL I personally dont like ls/vtec to much i know its a proven setup just my own experience sucks with it, there has been plenty of proven straight ls's out there as well...jojo callos's old team mate ran a straight ls and made crazy power, cant remember his name right now, I know someone will chime in.

so yah i prefer my built ls when i have time slips to show all i will

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by buda18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick OT:

whats the purpose of opposite sided TB on the K-series?</TD></TR></TABLE>

less intercooler piping on street cars with front mounts.

thanks for the heads up geoff

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by buda18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">quick OT:

whats the purpose of opposite sided TB on the K-series?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Edit: Yeah, what he ^^^ said.

 

flipping the TB inlet around allows you to run a traditional left to right flow IC rather than a vertical flow IC.

The big advantage here is that you can rin a larger intercooler with this orientation. With the standard K series Intake manifold, it is just about impossible to fit an intercooler that is not good for much more than 600 whp, whereas the big cores we have begun using are good to 850 whp without significant pressure drops.

Basically, for a big power air-to-air app, this setup is key. If you need pics of what i mean ill get some.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">flipping the TB inlet around allows you to run a traditional left to right flow IC rather than a vertical flow IC.

The big advantage here is that you can rin a larger intercooler with this orientation. With the standard K series Intake manifold, it is just about impossible to fit an intercooler that is not good for much more than 600 whp, whereas the big cores we have begun using are good to 850 whp without significant pressure drops.

Basically, for a big power air-to-air app, this setup is key. If you need pics of what i mean ill get some.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If you're running that much power in a Honda, chances are its not your primary street car, so you might as well run a liquid-to-air intercooler which would favor the drivers side TB inlet on the K-series.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Motorsports &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok. We need your input. We are in the process of trying to work out an option for the LS Intake Manifold. We need to see what kind of interest there is for this application. All those interested in a Intake Manifold for the LS/B20 please email Todd@Full-Race.com.

Thanks for your help.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Email sent!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dave.g &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If you're running that much power in a Honda, chances are its not your primary street car, so you might as well run a liquid-to-air intercooler which would favor the drivers side TB inlet on the K-series.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I don't know about that....... street cars are pushing some serious power nowadays, even the daily drivers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">our k series stuff will be off the hook

the opposite tb is one option, and we will have some other really cool tricks. However, it will be using a civic/teg iac</TD></TR></TABLE>

Aw man I can't wait to see them, when my k20/k24 block setup goes in my integra ( next year)i'll definately be buying a full kit BTW are there any rods out for the k24 block yet?

 

i think the only people making rods are crower, pauter and cunningham, but they are $

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i think the only people making rods are crower, pauter and cunningham, but they are $</TD></TR></TABLE>

yeah that's what i've been hearing. Unfortunately the k24 block and k20a2 head will be sitting in the basement till next spring/summer...hopefully there will be off the shelf rods and your intake manifold will be in production . BTW do you think I should go bigger than 2.4L? Earl just informed me that benson sleeves can go up to 89mm

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18Flip &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

yeah that's what i've been hearing. Unfortunately the k24 block and k20a2 head will be sitting in the basement till next spring/summer...hopefully there will be off the shelf rods and your intake manifold will be in production . BTW do you think I should go bigger than 2.4L? Earl just informed me that benson sleeves can go up to 89mm </TD></TR></TABLE>

GOOD GOD I HATE U
I wanna work wherever u do

 

Very interesting...I'll have to keep my eye on this...

 

very intersted. if you need input on a TSX (k24a2) swapped into RSX for R&R (fitment etc) let me know

I have a k-pro and access to a dyno if need be. I also have a stock type-s manifold, a base manifold and TSX manifold for comparison.

 

when can we see a finished one!!!??

 

@ high RPM's that injector placement isn't useful since all it will do it splash all over the back of the inlet valve. Mind incorporating 2 sets of injector placement (that will be useful @ high RPM and lead to lower HC and better powers and emissions) ? I would really like this since I have something that will drive 8 injectors.


Modified by MidShipCivic at 12:29 PM 9/22/2004

 

any idea when the next b series one will be available?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B first (about 8 weeks), then K and D immediately afterwards.</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

Geoff, you guys at Full-Race never cease to amaze me


I will definately be picking up an F-R IM once they're finished.

I'd put myself on the waiting list but I have other expenses to take care of first

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by MidShipCivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">@ high RPM's that injector placement isn't useful since all it will do it splash all over the back of the inlet valve. Mind incorporating 2 sets of injector placement (that will be useful @ high RPM and lead to lower HC and better powers and emissions) ? I would really like this since I have something that will drive 8 injectors.


Modified by MidShipCivic at 12:29 PM 9/22/2004</TD></TR></TABLE>

stop making uness. comments I want more on the manifold not when your gonna pick up your own or expenses.

 

here are some pics of the runners, not yet finished, they will be done shortly

 

Looks good...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HRTuning &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Looks good...</TD></TR></TABLE>
like he said.