fast spool turbo and 350-400whp?
08-31-2005, 04:02 AM
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fast spool turbo for 350-400whp?
I'm looking for fast spool turbo for my setup...please recommend me, best turbo for setup listed below, best in price/performance/spool
right now i'm using K26 turbo with Tial 38mm WG, but it's too big on exhaust side, it reachs full boost at 5500.
b16 stock sleeves, eagle rods, wiseco 8.8 pistons, precision 450cc injectors, GSR cams, ported and polished head & Intake manifold, 3inch complete exhaust....i have also walboro 255l/h intank fuel pump, but not instaled yet
fuel management: hondata s 200b
boost adjusting: profec b spec II
how much whp could i expect with that setup?i know that 450 cc injectors are to small for 350whp..
right now i'm using K26 turbo with Tial 38mm WG, but it's too big on exhaust side, it reachs full boost at 5500.
b16 stock sleeves, eagle rods, wiseco 8.8 pistons, precision 450cc injectors, GSR cams, ported and polished head & Intake manifold, 3inch complete exhaust....i have also walboro 255l/h intank fuel pump, but not instaled yet
fuel management: hondata s 200b
boost adjusting: profec b spec II
how much whp could i expect with that setup?i know that 450 cc injectors are to small for 350whp..
08-31-2005, 06:55 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (mike1114)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GT28RS</TD></TR></TABLE>
08-31-2005, 07:12 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (sp00led)
Will a GT28RS flow enough for 350+ WHP?
That would be ~400BHP and I am not sure it will flow that much.
Take a look at the GT3071R with a T31 turbine housing with a .63 A/R.
That would be ~400BHP and I am not sure it will flow that much.
Take a look at the GT3071R with a T31 turbine housing with a .63 A/R.
08-31-2005, 09:13 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (LaXcAt)
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What he said if your budget allows, but if it does then I say Garret T3TO4E 57 trim.
What he said if your budget allows, but if it does then I say Garret T3TO4E 57 trim.
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08-31-2005, 10:01 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (Junglesnake)
Garret T3TO4E 57 trim. This is what I run on my 2.0 GSR. .60 Comp, .48 turbine. I used to have .63 turbine but switched for faster spool. Gained a lot more lower end tourqe and its more fun as a daily driver.
Boost starts 2700ish, full boost by 3500-3700ish.
I woule like to see how the gt2871r or Gt30 would do compared to my t3/t4. I would like a little faster spool still without top end sacrifice.
Boost starts 2700ish, full boost by 3500-3700ish.
I woule like to see how the gt2871r or Gt30 would do compared to my t3/t4. I would like a little faster spool still without top end sacrifice.
08-31-2005, 10:16 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (mike1114)
im waiting on my new setup to arrive...and ive been doing the normal "is it going to be enough" thinking.
with the right configuration of a gt28rs.... .82 a/r the 28rs is good for what...flowing around 350?
im really anxious to see what this turbo can do full tilt. im thinking with a nice head, stout block, and the right combination of parts...you could maybe pull some high 300 numbers...any agree?
with the right configuration of a gt28rs.... .82 a/r the 28rs is good for what...flowing around 350?
im really anxious to see what this turbo can do full tilt. im thinking with a nice head, stout block, and the right combination of parts...you could maybe pull some high 300 numbers...any agree?
08-31-2005, 11:28 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (mike1114)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by mike1114 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I woule like to see how the gt2871r or Gt30 would do compared to my t3/t4. I would like a little faster spool still without top end sacrifice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am waiting for the arrival of a GT3071R w/GT .63 to go one a fully built 2.0.
I will let you know what happens.
Modified by Alfa Turbo at 7:23 AM 9/1/2005
I woule like to see how the gt2871r or Gt30 would do compared to my t3/t4. I would like a little faster spool still without top end sacrifice.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I am waiting for the arrival of a GT3071R w/GT .63 to go one a fully built 2.0.
I will let you know what happens.
Modified by Alfa Turbo at 7:23 AM 9/1/2005
09-01-2005, 05:47 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (Alfa Turbo)
I would go with the gt2871 or the gt30...
PM me if you need a GT series turbo and want to pay WAY less than anywhere else
PM me if you need a GT series turbo and want to pay WAY less than anywhere else
09-01-2005, 06:18 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (Alfa Turbo)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Alfa Turbo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I am waiting for the arrival of a GT3071R w/T31 .63 to go one a fully built 2.0.
I will let you know what happens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How is the spool on the gt3071? Ive been trying to figure out which turbo im going to go with and i cant seem to find any maps or anything on that turbo.
I am waiting for the arrival of a GT3071R w/T31 .63 to go one a fully built 2.0.
I will let you know what happens.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How is the spool on the gt3071? Ive been trying to figure out which turbo im going to go with and i cant seem to find any maps or anything on that turbo.
09-01-2005, 07:32 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (sCeRaXn)
Here:
Look at this too! disco potato!
Solid Lines are gt28rs
Dotted Lines are gt3071
"The results are amazing to say the least. This is exactly the powerband that i am after for road racing. Driving the car on the street is insane, tons of low, mid and high end power. Peak power is coming in earlier around 7500-7600 rpms, which is welcomed especially on a road course. The peak torque gain was 58 ft-lbs, with gains found almost everywhere else in the powerband."
Disco
Look at this too! disco potato!
Solid Lines are gt28rs
Dotted Lines are gt3071
"The results are amazing to say the least. This is exactly the powerband that i am after for road racing. Driving the car on the street is insane, tons of low, mid and high end power. Peak power is coming in earlier around 7500-7600 rpms, which is welcomed especially on a road course. The peak torque gain was 58 ft-lbs, with gains found almost everywhere else in the powerband."
Disco
09-01-2005, 09:26 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (Sketch_hs)
dunno how many times i can say this....garett t3/o4e, 50 trim and .48 a/r.....for the money the best turbo for a daily street driven honda....if you dont mind spending the extra money go for a bb....but the 50 trim will make you just as happy
09-01-2005, 09:52 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (Maveric)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maveric »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dunno how many times i can say this....garett t3/o4e, 50 trim and .48 a/r.....for the money the best turbo for a daily street driven honda....if you dont mind spending the extra money go for a bb....but the 50 trim will make you just as happy</TD></TR></TABLE>
Listen to this person. 50 trim is an absolute monster for our hondas. Compressor efficency is amazing. I plotted out a B16 at 20psi revving to 9500rpm, never dropped below 74% compressor efficency and spooled before every turbo. Absolute monster. 7200 to 8500rpm the turbo was at 76% compressor efficency i believe. Hands down the best turbo for daily driving hondas.
Listen to this person. 50 trim is an absolute monster for our hondas. Compressor efficency is amazing. I plotted out a B16 at 20psi revving to 9500rpm, never dropped below 74% compressor efficency and spooled before every turbo. Absolute monster. 7200 to 8500rpm the turbo was at 76% compressor efficency i believe. Hands down the best turbo for daily driving hondas.
02-22-2015, 06:55 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo for 350-400whp? (verbripe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Maveric »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dunno how many times i can say this....garett t3/o4e, 50 trim and .48 a/r.....for the money the best turbo for a daily street driven honda....if you dont mind spending the extra money go for a bb....but the 50 trim will make you just as happy</TD></TR></TABLE>
Listen to this person. 50 trim is an absolute monster for our hondas. Compressor efficency is amazing. I plotted out a B16 at 20psi revving to 9500rpm, never dropped below 74% compressor efficency and spooled before every turbo. Absolute monster. 7200 to 8500rpm the turbo was at 76% compressor efficency i believe. Hands down the best turbo for daily driving hondas.
Listen to this person. 50 trim is an absolute monster for our hondas. Compressor efficency is amazing. I plotted out a B16 at 20psi revving to 9500rpm, never dropped below 74% compressor efficency and spooled before every turbo. Absolute monster. 7200 to 8500rpm the turbo was at 76% compressor efficency i believe. Hands down the best turbo for daily driving hondas.
02-22-2015, 07:53 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo and 350-400whp?
Many options have changed since then. As well as additional questions that have come as a factor since 2005.
questions to consider
-What type of fuel for 350whp? 93octane? E85? C16?
-When you mean 350+, what limit does that go to? 400whp? 500whp? That changes the game for choices when you want maximum potential in one turbocharger purpose.
-What engine/cylinder head combination are you using? Just because the turbocharger doesn't discriminate for its potential, doesn't mean that your particular build will reach those goals with the supplemental equipment you have in the build (injectors, map sensor, tuning software, downpipe size, etc).
-Proposed budget. Meaning the maximum willingness to spend on a turbocharger itself There are literally over 50 choices to perform what you're looking for. You can't use terms like "best bang for the buck", or "good enough to work, but not break the bank", etc. You must give a range. As your range gets lower in price, so do your options. Not to say that they don't exist, but fitment, usability, and repairability of that turbocharger become less of an option.
-Be specific with your build, purpose and use of equipment.... Show that, state it, then go from there.
*Edit* I just realized who you were, I already know a little more than what you originally posted.. But the same tidbits of advice still apply.
questions to consider
-What type of fuel for 350whp? 93octane? E85? C16?
-When you mean 350+, what limit does that go to? 400whp? 500whp? That changes the game for choices when you want maximum potential in one turbocharger purpose.
-What engine/cylinder head combination are you using? Just because the turbocharger doesn't discriminate for its potential, doesn't mean that your particular build will reach those goals with the supplemental equipment you have in the build (injectors, map sensor, tuning software, downpipe size, etc).
-Proposed budget. Meaning the maximum willingness to spend on a turbocharger itself There are literally over 50 choices to perform what you're looking for. You can't use terms like "best bang for the buck", or "good enough to work, but not break the bank", etc. You must give a range. As your range gets lower in price, so do your options. Not to say that they don't exist, but fitment, usability, and repairability of that turbocharger become less of an option.
-Be specific with your build, purpose and use of equipment.... Show that, state it, then go from there.
*Edit* I just realized who you were, I already know a little more than what you originally posted.. But the same tidbits of advice still apply.
02-22-2015, 08:27 AM
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Re: fast spool turbo and 350-400whp?
Many options have changed since then. As well as additional questions that have come as a factor since 2005.
questions to consider
-What type of fuel for 350whp? 93octane? E85? C16?
-When you mean 350+, what limit does that go to? 400whp? 500whp? That changes the game for choices when you want maximum potential in one turbocharger purpose.
-What engine/cylinder head combination are you using? Just because the turbocharger doesn't discriminate for its potential, doesn't mean that your particular build will reach those goals with the supplemental equipment you have in the build (injectors, map sensor, tuning software, downpipe size, etc).
-Proposed budget. Meaning the maximum willingness to spend on a turbocharger itself There are literally over 50 choices to perform what you're looking for. You can't use terms like "best bang for the buck", or "good enough to work, but not break the bank", etc. You must give a range. As your range gets lower in price, so do your options. Not to say that they don't exist, but fitment, usability, and repairability of that turbocharger become less of an option.
-Be specific with your build, purpose and use of equipment.... Show that, state it, then go from there.
*Edit* I just realized who you were, I already know a little more than what you originally posted.. But the same tidbits of advice still apply.
questions to consider
-What type of fuel for 350whp? 93octane? E85? C16?
-When you mean 350+, what limit does that go to? 400whp? 500whp? That changes the game for choices when you want maximum potential in one turbocharger purpose.
-What engine/cylinder head combination are you using? Just because the turbocharger doesn't discriminate for its potential, doesn't mean that your particular build will reach those goals with the supplemental equipment you have in the build (injectors, map sensor, tuning software, downpipe size, etc).
-Proposed budget. Meaning the maximum willingness to spend on a turbocharger itself There are literally over 50 choices to perform what you're looking for. You can't use terms like "best bang for the buck", or "good enough to work, but not break the bank", etc. You must give a range. As your range gets lower in price, so do your options. Not to say that they don't exist, but fitment, usability, and repairability of that turbocharger become less of an option.
-Be specific with your build, purpose and use of equipment.... Show that, state it, then go from there.
*Edit* I just realized who you were, I already know a little more than what you originally posted.. But the same tidbits of advice still apply.
-93 octane
-Me personally would say 350-420whp
-Great question and that is to be determined at a later date (when I build the motor). For now I would say 3" DP on a stock B18B. Later...maybe a 2.0 LSVtec? Don't know but I know it would be Vtec.
-I would like a close to $1,000 turbo but my max would be...$1,700ish
Putting this out on the table so others might can learn later
02-22-2015, 12:17 PM
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Re: fast spool turbo and 350-400whp?
Smaller turbo that will break 400 is a gt2871, you'll get get about 420-430 out of it before you hit the flow limit of the turbine wheel. Only other option is to step up to a gt30 turbine wheel.
02-22-2015, 02:32 PM
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