Engine Management
Have a D17a wanna go turbo. As the topic says anyone have any suggestions on an ems. The aem is too much money, Hondata offers Kpro but hear you can convert or something or other. Can systems like crome that are free be used to tune my car, I know Crome is a free program that can be had over the internet minus the cost of pocket programmer turbo edit, etc, etc. Any suggestions?
The free version of Crome is very limited in tuning capabilities. CromePro isn't free, but can do alot.
I would go with what your tuner is comfortable with. If your tuner doesn't care, K-pro is a good system.
I would go with what your tuner is comfortable with. If your tuner doesn't care, K-pro is a good system.
how user friendly is chrome pro?
im looking for a ems but im out in the middle of nowere were it seems like nobody knows how to tune. other than muscle cars that is?
im trying to find a real easy program something i can use maybe do myself
also i read alot in magazines about kids that want to learn and do themselves and there is alot of books but i have no idea were to get them, there is one called bosh fuel injection and timming or something or other does anyone know were to get these book so i can read up on this?
EDIT: id like to get a hondata but those seem real advanced and for a first time it would probly be a bad idea.
also you can d/l fuel and timming maps off the internet im pretty sure so im probly worrying over nothing?
Modified by i-want-a-crx at 11:36 PM 6/25/2008
im looking for a ems but im out in the middle of nowere were it seems like nobody knows how to tune. other than muscle cars that is?
im trying to find a real easy program something i can use maybe do myself
also i read alot in magazines about kids that want to learn and do themselves and there is alot of books but i have no idea were to get them, there is one called bosh fuel injection and timming or something or other does anyone know were to get these book so i can read up on this?
EDIT: id like to get a hondata but those seem real advanced and for a first time it would probly be a bad idea.
also you can d/l fuel and timming maps off the internet im pretty sure so im probly worrying over nothing?
Modified by i-want-a-crx at 11:36 PM 6/25/2008
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d17a = obd2
so you're either stuck with a piggyback or going full standalone.
obd2 ecu's that honda uses arent tuneable</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the s300 DOES NOT WORK WITH OBD2 ECU's
reading comprehension pwns people</TD></TR></TABLE>
for people who know what they're talking about.
OP read this http://www.7thgenhonda.com/for...=4777
so you're either stuck with a piggyback or going full standalone.
obd2 ecu's that honda uses arent tuneable</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the s300 DOES NOT WORK WITH OBD2 ECU's
reading comprehension pwns people</TD></TR></TABLE>
for people who know what they're talking about.OP read this http://www.7thgenhonda.com/for...=4777
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-want-a-crx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how user friendly is chrome pro?
im looking for a ems but im out in the middle of nowere were it seems like nobody knows how to tune. other than muscle cars that is?
im trying to find a real easy program something i can use maybe do myself
also i read alot in magazines about kids that want to learn and do themselves and there is alot of books but i have no idea were to get them, there is one called bosh fuel injection and timming or something or other does anyone know were to get these book so i can read up on this?
EDIT: id like to get a hondata but those seem real advanced and for a first time it would probly be a bad idea.
also you can d/l fuel and timming maps off the internet im pretty sure so im probly worrying over nothing?
Modified by i-want-a-crx at 11:36 PM 6/25/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
im looking for a ems but im out in the middle of nowere were it seems like nobody knows how to tune. other than muscle cars that is?
im trying to find a real easy program something i can use maybe do myself
also i read alot in magazines about kids that want to learn and do themselves and there is alot of books but i have no idea were to get them, there is one called bosh fuel injection and timming or something or other does anyone know were to get these book so i can read up on this?
EDIT: id like to get a hondata but those seem real advanced and for a first time it would probly be a bad idea.
also you can d/l fuel and timming maps off the internet im pretty sure so im probly worrying over nothing?
Modified by i-want-a-crx at 11:36 PM 6/25/2008</TD></TR></TABLE>
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crome is pretty user friendly assuming you have some grasp of tuning a car.
its pretty much a more organized version of uberdata
just download the free version and play around with the software on your pc... it should give you a pretty good idea of what pro is
its pretty much a more organized version of uberdata
just download the free version and play around with the software on your pc... it should give you a pretty good idea of what pro is
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you really dont want to try tuning if you dont have a clue.
there is no trial and error with tuning... trial and error destroys motors
and you have to have a chipped ecu and a romburner to use crome.. or an emulator
there is no trial and error with tuning... trial and error destroys motors
and you have to have a chipped ecu and a romburner to use crome.. or an emulator
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um no... the new cars dont work that way.. sorry, you cant do that on the newer civics.
that stopped in 2000.
p28's cant run the new motors, none of them can...
that stopped in 2000.
p28's cant run the new motors, none of them can...
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">d17a = obd2
so you're either stuck with a piggyback or going full standalone.
obd2 ecu's that honda uses arent tuneable</TD></TR></TABLE>
true
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2redstars »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since he said he has a d17a, sounds like its not obd1. im not sure if there is any freeware for 2001+ civics.</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um no... the new cars dont work that way.. sorry, you cant do that on the newer civics.
that stopped in 2000.
p28's cant run the new motors, none of them can...</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct.
I used to have a D17 civic so I know....u can try greddy emanage, or the k pro conversion (which I dont know too much about beacuse it came out after I got rid of the car) or you can use an aem $$$
so you're either stuck with a piggyback or going full standalone.
obd2 ecu's that honda uses arent tuneable</TD></TR></TABLE>
true
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2redstars »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">since he said he has a d17a, sounds like its not obd1. im not sure if there is any freeware for 2001+ civics.</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">um no... the new cars dont work that way.. sorry, you cant do that on the newer civics.
that stopped in 2000.
p28's cant run the new motors, none of them can...</TD></TR></TABLE>
correct.
I used to have a D17 civic so I know....u can try greddy emanage, or the k pro conversion (which I dont know too much about beacuse it came out after I got rid of the car) or you can use an aem $$$
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