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oh yeah and you love street tuning because you love burgers at wendys. Mmm jk

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMs1eeper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">oh yeah and you love street tuning because you love burgers at wendys. Mmm jk</TD></TR></TABLE>
yuuuuum

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SOHC_MShue &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
How does he keep from getting tickets? I know i wouldn't risk getting tickets driving customers cars on the street. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Find a good time to do the driving... I have been pulled over before at around 6:00am in the morning a few times, and frankly I just told the cop I am taking my customer's car for a test drive to make sure everything is okay. Everytime I got away without any tickets, I am pretty sure that the cop knows I am doing it the much safer way as well because there is absolutely no cars on the road in the morning, and I am familiar with where the cop usually patrols around. There are few "safe spots" for me to do those 4th to 5th gear pulls

I treat is as a part of my job (well, I was doing this part time).. I am not really concerned about tickets but rather than safety. As for safety, I would always be the driver. As part my job, well, just like how guys could be working around heavy machinery and could lose an arm or a leg, I guess boosting in a 500+ car would be the risks involved for me Also, a lot of the customers are building their first car, and no way they could handle the sudden burst of added power. Imagine them driving a 150 WHP bolt-on B18C for all these years and all of a sudden you throw them a fully sleeved a built 400+ WHP monster. That's just dangerous for the customer as well because I also want to keep them out of trouble. On the otherhand, I am well used to big power cars and have been driving them on a daily basis.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tony the Tiger &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Find a good time to do the driving... I have been pulled over before at around 6:00am in the morning a few times, and frankly I just told the cop I am taking my customer's car for a test drive to make sure everything is okay. Everytime I got away without any tickets, I am pretty sure that the cop knows I am doing it the much safer way as well because there is absolutely no cars on the road in the morning, and I am familiar with where the cop usually patrols around. There are few "safe spots" for me to do those 4th to 5th gear pulls

I treat is as a part of my job (well, I was doing this part time).. I am not really concerned about tickets but rather than safety. As for safety, I would always be the driver. As part my job, well, just like how guys could be working around heavy machinery and could lose an arm or a leg, I guess boosting in a 500+ car would be the risks involved for me Also, a lot of the customers are building their first car, and no way they could handle the sudden burst of added power. Imagine them driving a 150 WHP bolt-on B18C for all these years and all of a sudden you throw them a fully sleeved a built 400+ WHP monster. That's just dangerous for the customer as well because I also want to keep them out of trouble. On the otherhand, I am well used to big power cars and have been driving them on a daily basis.</TD></TR></TABLE>

never really thought of a car tuner as a risky job. but yeah either way you look at it there are risks involved be it inexperienced drivers or tickets. kinda scary to think about driving around high hp honda with an inexperienced driver.

 

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never really thought of a car tuner as a risky job. but yeah either way you look at it there are risks involved be it inexperienced drivers or tickets. kinda scary to think about driving around high hp honda with an inexperienced driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'd love to see a health insurance company cover a few hundred thousand dollars worth of hospital bills if you were ever in a serious accident "street tuning" where if you catch your arm in a binding machine in a print-shop, you are covered for LIFE under workers comp / disability...not to mention the law suit you might be able to get. As soon as the insurance company read the police report you would be out to dry...

On the same...I'd love to see the IRS let you write off a speeding ticket (or bail money) as a business expense

Unfortunately there is a difference between legal and illegal risk management.

If I can tell the driver cant drive (and you can tell this immediately), I usually have them do the part throttle driving only and then I will do the pulls as its not like I need to be pushing buttons in pull.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jim Truett &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The last I remember reading about this, it is not even a liner deterioration. Depending on temperature, you may lose one or two octane numbers in a month, but once the fuel starts breaking down chemically, the octane #s start dropping rapidly.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My car will have sat for about 2 months when it's all done... tank was about 7/8 full of 93 octane and I added fuel stabilizer and some octane booster. Any idea if this will be okay?

 

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My car will have sat for about 2 months when it's all done... tank was about 7/8 full of 93 octane and I added fuel stabilizer and some octane booster. Any idea if this will be okay?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Fuel stabilizer expletives **** up good. Drain the tank and put good 93 octane in there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by david@didrace.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Fuel stabilizer expletives **** up good. Drain the tank and put good 93 octane in there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Any way that you can explain further what gets messed up by adding stabilizer to the fuel?

 

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I'd love to see a health insurance company cover a few hundred thousand dollars worth of hospital bills if you were ever in a serious accident "street tuning" where if you catch your arm in a binding machine in a print-shop, you are covered for LIFE under workers comp / disability...not to mention the law suit you might be able to get. As soon as the insurance company read the police report you would be out to dry...

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Mechanic insurance... It is also part of the job when accidents happen from broken parts on a car, or a serious issue with safety components (brakes, suspension, etc...) while they were test driving. It is no different than any other professional job, just like if someone was squashed by a car falling off a hoist at the dealership... No different than some guy losing a finger on a press

 

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Mechanic insurance... It is also part of the job when accidents happen from broken parts on a car, or a serious issue with safety components (brakes, suspension, etc...) while they were test driving. It is no different than any other professional job, just like if someone was squashed by a car falling off a hoist at the dealership... No different than some guy losing a finger on a press </TD></TR></TABLE>

It is if you are breaking the law to do it...IE speeding. I dont know the ins/outs of Canada's health care system...but in the states if you have to do road testing stuff that requires you go past the speed limit, you are better off as a mechanic on a dyno, whether its the emissions type or the performance type. No insurance company is going to cover you working if you claim you had to speed to test drive a car whether it be worker's comp, standard personal healthcare insurance, or your auto insurance's PIP coverage.

 

I'm not big on WOT street tuning. Was making a pull on the street. It was late at night with no other cars around. T4 turbocharger, fully built motor, etc. Around 9000RPM the valve stem on one of the rear tires came off and the tire blew. Car spun a couple times, driver kept it from the side of the road and came to a stop. Let our hearts catch up and drove to the side and had the car towed. I have not done any serious WOT street tuning since then. Dyno

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sundownz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Any way that you can explain further what gets messed up by adding stabilizer to the fuel?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It won't; he's talking out of his ***.

Just to add I left about a half tank of 90 octane in my civic for exactly a year. no stabilizer no nothing.

Dropped a d16z6 in htere; plumbed/wired it all up; starts like a champ doesnt even smell like bad gas.

 

If you do it long enough, something will happen. Failures happen, plain and simple. When you push the limits like I have, it finally makes you wonder is it really worth it.

Ive had some close calls from suspension failures. to just plain too much power its uncontrollable. Ive been in wrecks, almost wrecks, near misses, and been plenty to watch people lose control of their own car, been there to witness our 1300 whp Ford GT TT spin out and almost hit the other GT... that would have been a loss of half a million bucks. But you have to go into it with the mind set, are you prepared to push these machines to the extent theres a good chance something is going to break? Can you take the financial responsibility, not to mention the fact you risk your life every time you push the acceleration to the limits of something that wasnt meant to go that quick.

to sum it up. dyno tuning is a lot safer, Just today we had a road race hoosier tire thats rated for serious speed blow out on one of the Ford GT's at 180 MPH on the dyno. no big deal, gave us a scare... Imagine if it was on the road. no fun.

If you are going to do any type of crazy activity on the road, be safe, dont do it in traffic, coming up on a car thats doing 60 when you're doing 140, you never know what they are going to do. Not to mention, if u lose it at 140, is your little car going to be able to take it? probably not.

 

i quit street tuning. getting chased by the cops is not fun at all. i only dyno tune now. u guys risk too much street tuning cars. its def. not worth the time and money to street tune a car