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Old 10-30-2002, 03:12 AM
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So we finally got the Civic on a dyno. As i figured the car was running extremely lean. My friend took it to the shop instead of having me work on it which was fine They yanked the blue box and put a V-AFC, 10:1 FMU, Black box they sell to dupe the MAP sensor and a stock FPR. At first they couldnt richen it up past 5k rpm and couldnt figure out what it was. Tried an inline pump (already has a 255 lph walbro) and tried shooting the pressure up. Turns out it was the AEM adj. FPR that we put on long long ago. They pulled that off and put a b18c1 rail on it with a stock FPR. Took care of all the problems. The car was only tuned with the V-AFC and here is what it made.



Cybernation are good guys but hopefully we will be adding an FJO to the mix so i can tune it myself in the future.
Old 10-30-2002, 03:17 AM
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

I also gotta add...this car needs a bigger exhaust and downpipe. Its running the greddy kit with a DC Sports exhaust thats been on since the beginning. I think thats the reason for the hp stopping at 260 and the fairly high torque for a b16. It appears to be running out of breath up top. Although my friend loves it like it is, its very quiet and stealthy.
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

that is HUGE torque for a b16 with that hp...
seems weird!
nice numbers though
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Default Re: dyno last night (SiRkid)

Its in STD and not SAE. But your #'s still look good.
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nice torque.
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Default Re: dyno last night (Hammett)

Do you know why it stopped making power at 5600rpm? Shouldn't you be making power all the way to 7800rpm? Your air fuel looks good all the way to redline. Nice numbers though. Love that torque.
Old 10-30-2002, 06:35 AM
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what kind of turbo is it?
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Default Re: dyno last night (MIKES)

Do you know why it stopped making power at 5600rpm? Shouldn't you be making power all the way to 7800rpm? Your air fuel looks good all the way to redline. Nice numbers though. Love that torque.
My opinion is that the exhaust is causing the power the fall off. Another problem we are having is getting the boost to stay steady above 10 psi, it spikes if you try to go any higher. It will spike to 15 psi and then go back down to 10. Im going to try and work that out today. The numbers were suprising to say the least. Still got a long way to go.

BTW its not my car, its a car i built for my best friend, all the work was done in my garage.
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Default Re: dyno last night (BoM)

what kind of turbo is it?
all stock greddy kit with td05 18g and type 31 intercooler.
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Default Re: dyno last night (Arturbo)

Its in STD and not SAE. But your #'s still look good.
Yeah, i wanna get the SAE numbers, here in South Florida it shouldve be too different but it would be nice to know.

This run was really just to get the fuel right. I feel good about the car since its so basic right now. So much more to go. We definetly need to figure out why it cant hold 12 psi solid.


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So much more to go. We definetly need to figure out why it cant hold 12 psi solid.
have you shortened the actuator arm? are you using any other form of boost control?
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

12 psi? Are you pushing the limits of the 18G with an internal WG?

Nice numbers tho, whats the difference between SAE and this?
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im confused.how can you get that kind of torque?
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Default Re: dyno last night (falconGSR)

have you shortened the actuator arm? are you using any other form of boost control?
Havent touched the actuator arm yet. We are using a Profec-b, the shop didnt fine tune it. They just spun it all the way around. Im going to try and play with it tonight. Any ideas on how we could even out the boost?
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Default Re: dyno last night (SiRkid)

The cars motor isnt stock. It has a .020 overbore, endyn pistons (they are supposed to be 9:1 but i havent CC'd the motor), eagle rods and everything else is stock (head, cams, gears).
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

So we finally got the Civic on a dyno. As i figured the car was running extremely lean. My friend took it to the shop instead of having me work on it which was fine They yanked the blue box and put a V-AFC, 10:1 FMU, Black box they sell to dupe the MAP sensor and a stock FPR. At first they couldnt richen it up past 5k rpm and couldnt figure out what it was. Tried an inline pump (already has a 255 lph walbro) and tried shooting the pressure up. Turns out it was the AEM adj. FPR that we put on long long ago. They pulled that off and put a b18c1 rail on it with a stock FPR. Took care of all the problems. The car was only tuned with the V-AFC and here is what it made.
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hello, nice graph, but your vtec is not coming on.

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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

shortening the arm will raise the seat pressure on the wastegate flapper and get the wastegate actuator closer to your target boost level, and probly give the profec an easier time of regulating to your target boost level.
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Default Re: dyno last night (FredoSP)

12 psi? Are you pushing the limits of the 18G with an internal WG?

Nice numbers tho, whats the difference between SAE and this?
I think the limit is 15 psi on the stock wastegate, i called my friend and he said the car is holding 10 psi and spiking to 15 psi. Definetly need to fix that....

SAE corrects the numbers for elevation, temp, barometric pressure, humidity etc etc. I guess you could say it takes the weather out of the equation and standardizes the tests.
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Default Re: dyno last night (CHEETAH)

What makes you say that?
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looks like its coming on to me...
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

done it many times just to see how the low cams act with boost ... looks just like that, put +12v on the solenoid when running and notice the difference, your hp will go up to 330hp.

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Default Re: dyno last night (CHEETAH)

Im gonna try that, i wonder why its not coming on anymore.
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Default Re: dyno last night (5speedv6)

Pretty good numbers. Looks like Vtec is just fine... What do you have it set at? It looks like at about 5200 HP slope changes drastically... torque peaks then drops off, while power is steady all the way to redline. Am I the only one who sees that the HP is the one thats steady and the torque is the one falling off?

BTW nice torque...numbers looks like an SR20DET with cams
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