Do block guards help or is it just peace of mind?
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Re: (igo4bmx)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by igo4bmx »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
you're goal keeps changing...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Guilty
. Let's see if my motor even runs first. It's the first build I've done entirely myself, so for all I know, the motor might blow up the first time I start it and I'll have zero hp.
you're goal keeps changing...</TD></TR></TABLE>
Guilty
. Let's see if my motor even runs first. It's the first build I've done entirely myself, so for all I know, the motor might blow up the first time I start it and I'll have zero hp.
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Re: (Unsivil_audio)
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At the same time, who does run 400whp everyday? I know I'm not going to; nor would I try it on anything less than 100 octane.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i do on 93 pump with DARTON SLEEVES.
At the same time, who does run 400whp everyday? I know I'm not going to; nor would I try it on anything less than 100 octane.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i do on 93 pump with DARTON SLEEVES.
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Re: (dunkd)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dunkd »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do on 93 pump with DARTON SLEEVES. </TD></TR></TABLE>
And you could of done it on 93 with stock sleeves. Point being, you must have had a good tuner? Because one again, higher octane does not make the power just leaves more headroom for error.
Sorry but if I had a sleeved block I wouldnt want to risk it on crappy gas. You can still break it with detonation.
</TD></TR></TABLE>And you could of done it on 93 with stock sleeves. Point being, you must have had a good tuner? Because one again, higher octane does not make the power just leaves more headroom for error.
Sorry but if I had a sleeved block I wouldnt want to risk it on crappy gas. You can still break it with detonation.
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Re: (Unsivil_audio)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Unsivil_audio »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
And you could of done it on 93 with stock sleeves. Point being, you must have had a good tuner? Because one again, higher octane does not make the power just leaves more headroom for error.
Sorry but if I had a sleeved block I wouldnt want to risk it on crappy gas. You can still break it with detonation. </TD></TR></TABLE>
moral of the story - IN THE END IT WILL ALL COME DOWN HOW WELL YOUR CAR IS TUNED if you are making serious power.
And you could of done it on 93 with stock sleeves. Point being, you must have had a good tuner? Because one again, higher octane does not make the power just leaves more headroom for error.
Sorry but if I had a sleeved block I wouldnt want to risk it on crappy gas. You can still break it with detonation.
</TD></TR></TABLE>moral of the story - IN THE END IT WILL ALL COME DOWN HOW WELL YOUR CAR IS TUNED if you are making serious power.
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Re: (dunkd)
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moral of the story - IN THE END IT WILL ALL COME DOWN HOW WELL YOUR CAR IS TUNED if you are making serious power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
then again one bad tank of gas and good by motor...
but yeah I still agree with the quote just as anyone should.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepyhatch00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if money is no issue, offcourse sleeve it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if money is no issue then I don't think D series would be the platform of choice.
I say use stock sleeves, drive it hard until it blows, then sleeve it like many of us have done...
moral of the story - IN THE END IT WILL ALL COME DOWN HOW WELL YOUR CAR IS TUNED if you are making serious power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
then again one bad tank of gas and good by motor...
but yeah I still agree with the quote just as anyone should.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sleepyhatch00 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if money is no issue, offcourse sleeve it. </TD></TR></TABLE>
if money is no issue then I don't think D series would be the platform of choice.
I say use stock sleeves, drive it hard until it blows, then sleeve it like many of us have done...
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Re: Do block guards help or is it just peace of mind? (hondaguyef)
Originally Posted by hondaguyef
People that still swear by them are misinformed. They actually do more harm than good. If you have the money to make over 600whp then you should have the $$$$ to buy a sleeved block and at this point I'd keep my OE sleeves instead of taking a chance at an aftermarket one sinking.
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This thread is pathetically full of so much misinformation I don't even know where to begin.
Originally Posted by rainforest
i second that all the block guards block coolent flow and pointless.
Originally Posted by DelSolMike
Well I from what I am now hearing is d-series sleeves wiggle a lot during high boost, causing a lot of head gasket failure. I've also been hearing that they are much more beneficial on d's rather than b's. It wouldn't actually be costing anything other than the price of the block guard. I'd have the machine shop do the work when my block is bored and honed and they said it wouldn't cost anything extra.
Originally Posted by dunkd
id rather rock no blockguard and open sleeves... not becuase of the coolant flow issues (that is just theory to me). When installing a blockguard there are special machining techniques that have to be used to actually have it make a difference. Just hammering it in there isn't doing anything good for you, its actually causing harm. It can cause your cylinders to become "egg" shaped. This info isn't from my personal experience but from the "professionals" in our game that I talked to when doing my research when I started.
Originally Posted by ProjectDarkBlack
ya d-series is just a bad platform. Some people can do it but its just too many problems. The idea of blockgaurds blocking coolant flow is that they take up space where there is normally coolant, that space happens to be one of the hottest parts of the block. From what I have seen personally a D is just not a strong motor, built or not.
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Re: Do block guards help or is it just peace of mind? (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">D Series is a better platform than a B Series in many ways. The D Series engine itself is about 75 lbs lighter than the B Series, it has less rotational mass and frictional losses, less complex moving parts (which means less to break), it's easier and cheaper to work on, and the sleeves may even be stronger as discussed earlier in my post.</TD></TR></TABLE>
not to mention theres a certain satisfaction one receives after building an engine that is seen as inferior to the B,H,K,etc-series...
not to mention theres a certain satisfaction one receives after building an engine that is seen as inferior to the B,H,K,etc-series...
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