i-spit-hotfire

i want to rebuilt my gsr motor and go turbo. this would be my first rebuild and to start out i want to sleeve the block. im looking at darton 81 or 84 i have a b18c with stock internals...which ones? well its going for 575-600 then i'll have some local garage do it...good deal?

ah789454

dry sleeves and closed deck

NJIN BUILDR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-spit-hotfire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i want to rebuilt my gsr motor and go turbo. this would be my first rebuild and to start out i want to sleeve the block. im looking at darton 81 or 84 i have a b18c with stock internals...which ones? well its going for 575-600 then i'll have some local garage do it...good deal?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your using the stock pistons you want the 81mm.If you want to use aftermarket bigger piston (which you will need to make 575 hp) go with the 84mm.I wouldn't have a local shop do the sleeving,unless they have experience doing them before.

PrecisionH23a

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I wouldn't have a local shop do the sleeving,unless they have experience doing them before.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep. There is precision machine work involved in sleeving a Honda engine. Fork out the extra bucks and go with a company that specialized in sleeving.

i-spit-hotfire

if i'm getting this right the darton sleeve replaces the whole cylinder or does it go around it like a blockguard thing? i'm thinking 84mm if anyone knows a place where i can get my b18c sleeved with aftermarket pistons and rods for turbo..preferably 9:1 comp

Mugencrxsir1

Call up benson, for sleeves, or AEBS, either way it's going to run you around $900-$1000, with shipping to have someone do it right. Goodluck

sc4dr

Jim Justice in Frederick MD. Darton installer. Flanged or MID designs

http://www.justiceracingengines.com

ExospeedAMcrx

contact us by email or phone. we are authorized dealer and installer of Darton Sleeves. Theres others on the lists as well you can contact if you are not near us.

http://www.dartonsleeves.com/distrib.htm

ValleySyder

ERLPerformance stand by there Darton Work !!!

call sean

tgreaves

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call sean </TD></TR></TABLE>

i-spit-hotfire

who's sean from ERLperformance? can i get a contact info?

Quad-Damage

Anyone have Pics of Darton SLEAVED BLOCKS?

BTW DARTON

earl

Remember, sleeves don't come in sizes. They are installed in a raw form and then bores/honed to what ever size you choose. You do not have to order them in a particular size first.

88crxhfb16

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Then why are there different part numbers for different sizes?

DS-400-110 DARTON MID SLEEVE KIT:B16/81mm
DS-400-120 DARTON MID SLEEVE KIT:B16/84mm

tokesGTR

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by i-spit-hotfire &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">who's sean from ERLperformance? can i get a contact info?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Timing from the song playing on itunes it took me a WHOPPING 22 seconds to open a new window, type in ERL performance, and get their contact info. Doing things on your own is a bitch, isn't it?

ERL PERFORMANCE, INC.
P.O. Box 1026
2560 Charlestown Road
New Albany, Indiana 47150

Phone: (812) 948 - 8484
Fax: (812) 944 - 8808

93LSivic

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Darton MID's do. Imagine being a machine shop owner and having to bore a 81mm sleeve to 86mm for all motor apps. Having the different sizes puts a lot less wear on the machine shop boring equipment and makes them not curse out loud to darton that they should have more sizes

Also if you are interested in ERL sleeves, we are an authorized dealer and one of the largest You need to go through a dealer, but if you would like information from the horses mouth then give Sean a call and he will recommend a dealer to you

PrecisionH23a

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quad-Damage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone have Pics of Darton SLEAVED BLOCKS?

BTW DARTON </TD></TR></TABLE>

Check out http://www.av-engineered.com There are a good amount of pictures in our customers build sections as well.

We also go through darton/erl for all of our block sleeving.

earl

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Then why are there different part numbers for different sizes?
DS-400-110 DARTON MID SLEEVE KIT:B16/81mm
DS-400-120 DARTON MID SLEEVE KIT:B16/84mm </TD></TR></TABLE>
These are not to the exact size. They still must be honed to your exact piston to wall clearance requirements.

earl

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Darton MID's do. Imagine being a machine shop owner and having to bore a 81mm sleeve to 86mm for all motor apps. Having the different sizes puts a lot less wear on the machine shop boring equipment and makes them not curse out loud to darton that they should have more sizes </TD></TR></TABLE>
Most good C n C machines just laugh at going from 81mm to 86mm. Easy for the right machine to do that in 3 passes or so.

93LSivic

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Most good C n C machines just laugh at going from 81mm to 86mm. Easy for the right machine to do that in 3 passes or so.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, but does every machine shop have the machines that ERL or Benson or GEM have? Nope. Thats the thing, any "knowledgable" machine shop can install the sleeves (gulp ) with machines that may not be able to handle the load these others can. Just makes it easier on the little guys.