"pretty much the same" deck height is not the same. if this non production block go thru then what happens when GM or Ford wants to run their non production piece? this opens up a bag of worms which just doesn't need to be opened.

 

if you re-sleeve your block it's no longer a production block either whats the difference???

Same with rods pistons cams crank. the whole idea of modding a car is just that MODIFING it if that means the block or frame who cares.

You cant run a honda frame once you get going real fast you gotta get a cage or eventually a tube chassis.

I don't recall seing that as an option from honda either.

 

Yep....heads from Dart, Edelbrock, etc. Not Ford or Chevy parts either.

 

It is still a production block. Its a production block that's been modified. It still has the block numbers, it was still made at the honda foundry. It still in hundreds of thousands of cars if not more than a million world wide. It's not a custom race piece like the dart.

frankly, if you can't tell the difference and don't have the foresight to see what this means, you're a noob. the block dart while custom and limited production, doesn't even have that many advantages.

If GM or whatever big three domestic manufacturers came out with their own custom race block it would blow everything else out of the water, and us with honda's, dart block or not would be severely disadvantaged.

And on what basis would we cry foul? after all if you had you're way, then dart block be would be legal. where's the difference?


[Modified by SEFI8LOxCivic, 6:23 PM 11/21/2002]

 

WOW!!!!!

 

from nhra 2003 rule book

dart block not legal in hot rod
street class
stree fwd
etc.. only pro fwd

also on the street fwd no slicks allowed.

 

O.k. were did you find the 2003 rule book?I dont believe it is available yet. Jason

 

they were giving them out at SEMA.. also the rules do state that.

 

well good now I need to get one since it is available, Jason

 

big deal its a racing block, PLENTY of v8 guys use racing blocks, theres nothing wrong at all about it. stock blocks arent designed to handle 600hp, sleeved or not.

 

there came Viren to the rescue lol. The Nhra STreet FWD is not point in racing in without SLicks. Also your car has to weigh 2300lb 1 power adder or 2400 with 2 power adders. So better bring a pair of drag radials.

 

Can you post all the rules for that class? I am really intersted in the rules since I have not recieved a rule book yet, Jason

 

I do not have the rule book with me. It is at the shop, it's really my boys. I also remember that you can have aftermarket control arms, ,chop tops, you have to run a exhaust that comes out from the rear of the tires. humm you need to matching seats.

 

"If GM or whatever big three domestic manufacturers came out with their own custom race block it would blow everything else out of the water, and us with honda's, dart block or not would be severely disadvantaged."

When GM did sponsor drag racing from the factory that's all they did was produce factory big block race spec motors that you could special order in your car so that you could do just that have an advantage over the other guy.

And if your refering to non-factory GM/domestic racing. TONS of people use non-factory blocks built only for racing and yes they have an advantage that's why they're in a different class.

I never said a guy with a dart block should be able to raise an unmodified guy. but if you say GE sleeves are so friggin bullet proof then what's the difference. On one hand you say why bother with dart and the other you say that it's not fair if someone else does.

Grow up. It's a friggin race motor where the hell else are you going to drive it but at the track. it's an advantage like any other at the track if it has an unfair advantage it'll be dealt with accordingly and quickly.

"It is still a production block. Its a production block that's been modified. It still has the block numbers, it was still made at the honda foundry. It still in hundreds of thousands of cars if not more than a million world wide. It's not a custom race piece like the dart."

Ya the block has numbers on it GREAT. name any other car that came with those sleeves from the factory. You do realise that sleeves are part of the block right??
It's a modified stock block
the dart is an aftermarket block I don't see why you'd be so viamently opposed to them.

Under your logic eclipse/talon drivers shouldn't be able to upgrade to a different turbo..just port or clip there own.

Oh and go to hell as far as the noob comment goes.

what are the rules when it comes to buschur blocks in dsm's????

if they can use them why the hell can't a honda?


[Modified by NonovUrbizniz, 7:55 PM 11/22/2002]

 

I don't think you get the point. The point isn't about a sleeved B Series vs a Dart aftermarket block. I don't think there is an major advantage between the two either way. The point here is that by allowing the Dart block in whatever class its allowed you set precedence to allow other manufactures to do the same. What ends up being unfair is you are racing a production piece vs a custom one off.

The Dart is built with compromises because it uses many of the stock components, but when someone wants to make a real custom one off race block without the handicaps, they're able to site the Dart block as precedence for allowing it thru. Do you see where this leads?

I've never said that the GE block is "friggin bullet proof". Only noobs believe something is gonna last forever because it cost a lot of money. Racing breaks things, and if you can't deal with that fact your racing career will be short.

I don't know about DSMs, but I looked on their website and they don't have a custom cast block listed. What they do have is factory short blocks that have their rods and pistons replaced. If you think this is in the same catagory as a dart block, then you're a moron and I wish I never replied to you in the first place because you're wasting my time.

a majority of your comments/arguements don't even make sense.





[Modified by SEFI8LOxCivic, 9:07 PM 11/22/2002]