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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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I cracked the liner in cyl 3 now where do I go from here????
Also I live in the United Kingdom England so it would be hard to ship my block to the US.
What do you lot think.
I have not got a hp goal I'm just out to make what I can with the setup I got.
setup is
B16
CP pistons flat top
Cometic head gasket
Eagle H-beam rods
stock crank
stock bearings
rev-hard ex manifold
T3/TO4e
Turbo Smart 35mm gate
450cc injectors (soon to be 550cc rc's)
Hondata S200
Nitrous (hondata controled 25-50 shot)
2.5" downpipe and system (soon to be 3")

Thanks for your help.

Here's a pic to help.


Will resize later computer being a pain in the ***


Modified by NOSED_CRX_VTEC at 1:26 AM 10/12/2004


Modified by NOSED_CRX_VTEC at 6:14 AM 10/12/2004
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 02:05 PM
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nice you called us "lot".

See if you can buy this guys b16 block on here -JDMDC231
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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ouch...hows the pistons? you can probably find another b16 bare block for like less than 100 dollars and just use your pistons, rods and crank in the other block...or you could resleeve that block...hmm, looks like that was caused by the blockguard, so i hope u learned your lesson.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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new pistons and you can press a new sleeve in
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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did the blockguard really cause that to happen?
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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I got to get one piston cos the others are fine but I didn't know blockguards could do that.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Do you have a better pix of the piston? There appears to be detonation damage on it, from the little bit of it we could see.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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no no...block guard was installed. That means it did it..............what???? This makes no sense. I agree w/ BigMoose...may be detonation damage. Grab another block and do the block guard again, but have it sank lower and get better fuel/timing...should be good.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 05:27 PM
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When you got your BG installed did you take it to the machine shop to check for straightness??

How many lbs were u boosting???

Some how it looks like the piston broke pretty bad, what was the cause of this meltdown??

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PrettyLude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did the blockguard really cause that to happen?</TD></TR></TABLE>
There are so many Opinions on this so IMO if it's done right then No.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 06:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dome &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">new pistons and you can press a new sleeve in </TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda blocks are poured around the stock liners - not a press fit item.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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blockguard didnt cause this. most likely detonation.
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Old Oct 11, 2004 | 11:59 PM
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If you look closely there was some serious detonation. The pistons are missing chunks out of it.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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time for a new block and a new piston. cut your losses. and learn from your mistakes.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:07 AM
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Here is a pic of the piston.

I was running 11psi of boost and 25 shot of gas when the top rad hose blow clean off.

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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOSED_CRX_VTEC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Here is a pic of the piston.

I was running 11psi of boost and 25 shot of gas when the top rad hose blow clean off.
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WOW
That block guard was proly not the cause of your problem!
Were you tuned for the spray?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by si2die4 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
WOW
That block guard was proly not the cause of your problem!
Were you tuned for the spray?</TD></TR></TABLE>

yer it was tuned for gas.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:49 AM
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Damn that piston got fucked up. How's the head?? any damage there??

There has to be someone in good old England that does Honda Blocks.....
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:54 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRX T-Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> How's the head?? any damage there??
There has to be someone in good old England that does Honda Blocks.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Heads fine... even the plug looks good still.

there are people that can do it but it's just finding someone that can do it at the right price.
Would you pay £850 just for install!!! that not including the sleeves.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:55 AM
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I don't think it was the block gaurd that caused this problem. Motor went lean and to much timing.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:57 AM
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I've heard thing about hondata boost cut blowing motors cos it leans out the fuel, could it of been that?
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 11:24 AM
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Thanks for the pix. Clearly a very unhappy event going on in the combustion chamber when the boost met the juice... It looks like you are getting a handle on it, however.
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Old Oct 12, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BigMoose &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like you are getting a handle on it, however.</TD></TR></TABLE>

yer I'm learning the hard way but i'll get there in the end.
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