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Old 11-19-2006, 10:23 PM
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ok here my situation iam building a b16 sleeved with 81.5 mm bore fully ported head over sized valves full valvetrain and everything is port martched done by gude iam looking to run 30 -35 psi are our goals "track car only " just picked up the aem ems for it which turbo would ur recomend for a b16 that has ross pistons and eagle rods acl bearings and all arp hardware would u reccomend full races gt35r or the garret t3/GT40 ?? thanks for the help in advance just need to get some opinions before i order the turbo and manifold i dont wanna use nitrous on this application just wondering which would have the quickest spool and be best for my setup also running BLOX turbo cams if that makes a difference
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gt35r and it sounds like you have a pretty sweet engine setup any pics?
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thanks u guys i was thinking the gt40 would be a little on the big side the block is still in the machine shop but once the set up gets finished i will post pics
Old 11-20-2006, 05:47 PM
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Default Re: gt35r or gt40 for B16 ?? (civicgeek133)

if its a track car, and you are using big cams, our 40R setup on the divided, twin scroll manifold is a solid performer...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicgeek133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok here my situation iam building a b16 sleeved with 81.5 mm bore fully ported head over sized valves full valvetrain and everything is port martched done by gude iam looking to run 30 -35 psi are our goals "track car only " just picked up the aem ems for it which turbo would ur recomend for a b16 that has ross pistons and eagle rods acl bearings and all arp hardware would u reccomend full races gt35r or the garret t3/GT40 ?? thanks for the help in advance just need to get some opinions before i order the turbo and manifold i dont wanna use nitrous on this application just wondering which would have the quickest spool and be best for my setup also running BLOX turbo cams if that makes a difference </TD></TR></TABLE>

i think everyones missed this but your title and your post list 2 different turbo's...in your title you say GT40 and your post says t3/gt40 aka blowzilla....theres a big difference.
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lol i did not even notice ..... i meant the gt40r i was reading on the blowzilla rite before i posted this sorry bout that i wanna stick with full race products my freind has had nothing but good expeirences with there products and customer service
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Default Re: gt35r or gt40 for B16 ?? (civicgeek133)

and that head is gona suck on the 81.5mm bore.. big valves need big bore.

and gt40 is gona suck on a b16, it wont hit boost till probably 7000 rpms
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35R because its a b16 and is only at 81.5mm
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Neither Gt35R or Gt40R, I would put a GT3767S on it.
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gt40 is too big imo i answered with the gt35r and i think that would be perfect for your application esp with those psi levels
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GT3767S why would u reccomend this turbo over the 35r ??
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Default Re: gt35r or gt40 for B16 ?? (civicgeek133)

I would go with the 35R over the 40R on a B16 cause you dont have enough displacement. So there for your powerband/ full spool would be about 6500rpm with the 40R.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicgeek133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">GT3767S why would u reccomend this turbo over the 35r ?? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Because spooltime from this turbo is just a litle bit slower but you will make more peak power. If you are building a a drag car it will be better..
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Old 11-23-2006, 11:33 AM
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do u have a reason why u say this over the 35r ?
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how much power do you want to make?
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Put some valvesprings in it and then whatever turbo you want depending on how much power. Rev the **** out of it to whatever you need to not fall out of boost between shifts.
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hey i see u went 10.4 in ur hatch what turbo and what psi were u running ??? and the head is a built B16 head with blox turbo cams
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by civicgeek133 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hey i see u went 10.4 in ur hatch what turbo and what psi were u running ??? and the head is a built B16 head with blox turbo cams </TD></TR></TABLE>
T3/T67 H.O. went 10.4 on 23 lbs. Broke a sleeve when I ran it on 29 lbs but made 567whp on 29 psi.
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if this is a track only car and you spool at 7000 which i dont agree with, you will still be ok it the trans and slick size selection is ok. If you go under 7k on the track with a built b16 bottom end and a built head you are messing up somewhere. Go with the gt40r and for additional spool time go with the full race divided twin scroll manifold. I have personally seen the spool diffenence when used with a 42r. My car spooled at 6500 with a full race topmount and an identical car spooled at 5500 with a twin scroll fullrace manifold. It should be just as significant with a slightly smaller motor and turbo.
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hey can somone send me a link to prices and pics of this full race twin scroll manifold everyone is talkin bout i looked on full race and cant find it anywhere thanks in advance
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i dont know that they have it on the web site but if you pm geoff he could get you some pics and a price. Or contact Tony1 and he can get you a price and possibly some pics.
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alrite thanks for the help man
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Default Re: gt35r or gt40 for B16 ?? (civicgeek133)

ok change in build the block is sold and iam doing a 2.0 crower stroker kit.. pistons and rods and crank are for sale on honda-marketplace .... so now that i decided to go bigger would the gt40r be a problem at all to spool ?


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