Spec clutches are for domestics.. I dont think they make em for hondas

 

Hi, I find your post very interesting and it comes at a perfect timing. I am curently in the process of putting back together my build engine for turbo and I am at a stage when I am about to put my tranny back on to the engine. I was previously running a N/A setup, but knowing how important the clutch is I used the ACT extreme pressure plate with their street/strip disk. Well the pressure plate did keep up with my aggressive driving but the disk just like you have said was very close to failing. The splines were almost gone and one of the springs started coming out. Now for my question. I am running a Toda flywheels 8lbs with the ACT extreme pressure plate and just ordered an un-sprung organic copper 4 puc disk. Will this combination be good for my planed 320-350whp and what problems should I expec? Thanks, you are doing a great job.


[Modified by Screamer, 6:43 AM 7/30/2002]

 

No, he has one in his 2.44L H motor and hasn't had a problem since.

 

I'm not sure on this.. but clutches are measured by the amount of torque they can handle..

I have the ACT XTR6 and the R6 will hold 400lbs torque, and i think the clutchmasters stage 3 held around 300lbs...

I was unsure about the R6 until I drove a hatch today at the shop I goto and after 5 minutes of driving it.. it really wasn't as bad as everyone claimed... I'm installing mine in the morning.. and we shall see how the xtreme pp is compared to the ACT hd pp that i drove today..

 

Screamer, ACT disc will eat into your flywheel and your flywheel will have to go bye-bye.

Get a disc with Miba pads like Actions and you'll be cooo. Or you can step up and use Kevlar pucks.


[Modified by Rocket, 1:46 AM 7/30/2002]

 

What clutch do you recommend with an all motor integra which has 175whp and 138ft-lbs of torque? Daily driven, wont kill my flywheel.

 

1MD is perfect. Also a 1KD(Kevlar pads) is the ultimate.

 

I can say the Stage 1 KS is perfect for me.. Rocket helped me make a better choice on what I wanted.. and all I can say is that the KS is smooth like butter =P thanks robert for you and all the guys at hondasaver


[Modified by IMALLBOB, 2:12 PM 8/9/2002]

 

Bump for an outstanding company....

^^^^HondaSaver RULES^^^^

 

Thanks Bryson. So howz your custom Action disc.

 

I would have to make the same bump...Rocket was more than helpful. He answered all my questions (no matter how stupid) and was very quick to send the clutch I ordered. I will definitely do business with them again!

 

GREAT!!!!....I made a post under the CRX/EF forum....heres the link

Thanks once again Rocket....

BTW, How long do you think this clutch will last with daily driving? i understand that there are many factors in this, but how long have you seen this setup last?

heres the page....

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=257100

 

Easily 3 years.

 

Rocket, I have a Clutch Specialties Unsprung 6 puck Dual Diaphram. It has alot of chatter when engaging. Does that create alot of wear on my tranny or is it just wearing on the clutch itself. Thank you for you time

 

Yes. Sparkz just came by my house to show me his CS clutch and it was toast only after 3K miles.

 

Yep, I probably had not even close to 3k miles on the clutch specialties aluminum flywheel setup. The pads on the flywheel side were all worn down to the rivets already. My aluminum flywheel was just fubarred, very scarred up. Rockt has a picture of it so I hope he can post it up soon.

 

I got my Action Clutch yesterday, Thanks Rocket!

 

soooo.....

how long would the 6 puck setup last with the kevlar pads?

Forever...... ?

HondaSaver

 

Practically forever.

 

sweet!!!

I'm on the list to buy that setup from you next year!! (for my new motor)

 

Here it is. It's fucked up. The band in the middle is from the rivets!

 

Great post but I'm gonna stick with using OS Giken clutches until I get dumb enough to blow lots of loot on the ATS carbon clutch!

 

Can you sell me some ATS ****? Thanks.

 

CLUTCH 101 cont....

PRESSURE PLATE ASSEMBLY

Here's the underside of a OEM P72(GSR) pressure plate




STRAPS

Here are the difference between the stock STRAPS and the STRAPS used by Action





Note that the Action STRAP is pre-bent. This prevents the STRAP from bending at the rivet. It is 100 times more likely to break if it bends at the rivet instead of bending at a pre-determined point away from the rivet. Also note the thickness of the STRAP. The material of steel is also superior.

Also not that the Action STRAP is shorter. This is important since the straps keep the friction ring centered in the cover. Stock straps some time can't keep the friction ring centered and on high HP turbo engines the friction ring tends to shif and hit the cover. Once this happens the clutch has a hard time releasing properly.

ACT also use their own STRAPS but I am not too impressed since they just use cut steel ribbon and do not have the pre-bent sections like Actions.

Here's a pic of what the stock STRAP looks like up close in the stock P72 pressure plate. Notice how the stock STRAP can bend at the rivet. This bending occurs when the STRAP is in compression (when you down shift). When you launch the straps are in tension (being pulled upon) there's no bending.



More to come.....


[Modified by Rocket, 11:23 AM 8/24/2002]

 

What ATS items interest you? I can't sell you anything since I'm merely a consumer but I can help you get some stuff.