how is clutchmasters' ceramic friction material on the stage 4 clutch when it comes to longevity...im looking into a CM stage 4 because of the holding capacity and pedal feel...so id like to know if youd be able to help me out with how its durability would be for daily driving? i know pedal feel will be close to stock but what bout its impact on a stock flywheel? will it eat it up or will it be ok?...and how is it handling power? im planning to but 375+to the wheels...its for a h23a1 prelude turbo...thanks!


[Modified by hksturbolude, 2:38 PM 1/27/2003]

 

great thread

 

rocket.....


can you fix the pictures in this post?

 

I just read this last night under Archives lol. Now it's back

 

Rocket do you know anything about Spec clutches?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CLUTCH 101Clutchmasters does a unique thing in that the place spot welds to build up the LEVER POINT's and then do machining to be be able to move the LEVER POINT the furthest.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Since most companies are using the stock gray iron castings, welding gives CM the ability to go farther than others do in moving the fulcrum point. But as Rocket mentioned, it requires more travel to release. The farther you move the fulcrum, the mushier the pedal feels, since the spring is stock and the travel is increased. Not only is that true, but the further you move the fulcrum, the shorter the working range of the pressure plate, so you also sacrifice clutch life. **Warning, product plug - Since ACT uses their own ductile iron castings (SFI certified) they can put the fulcrum wherever they want. ** I feel so ashamed.
Great info. Rocket!! I hope you don't mind if I chime in.

 

I don't think Rocket will see this, he's usually in the All motor camp

 

Dirk (ACTman) knows his clutches

 

Are the dates on this thread correct? If so, Rocket and I have chatted a few times since then. I would love for him to come up to our shop in Lancaster and see what we do here. He knows his stuff, but he is missing a few of the finer points. knowing how much he likes tech, he would really benefit from a tour and tech session.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are the dates on this thread correct? If so, Rocket and I have chatted a few times since then. I would love for him to come up to our shop in Lancaster and see what we do here. He knows his stuff, but he is missing a few of the finer points. knowing how much he likes tech, he would really benefit from a tour and tech session.</TD></TR></TABLE>


ACT Man, Im trying to create a Clutch 101 section on my Wesbsite which I plan to fill with as much technical information as I can. Can you help me with adding information other than what I gather from this threrad?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ACT Man, Im trying to create a Clutch 101 section on my Wesbsite which I plan to fill with as much technical information as I can. Can you help me with adding information other than what I gather from this threrad? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Sure. Are you somewhat local? If not, please email some questions and I will go from there. My email is dstarksen@advancedclutch.com. Do you have a website already that I can look at?

 

good info thanks

 

damn, this thread has been revived from the dead..

on a side note, it never surpsises me enough how many knowledgeable, established people in the automotive performance industry we have as members of this site!!

 

what's yer guy's opinion on the hyperclutch and how does it compare to the others

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Sure. Are you somewhat local? If not, please email some questions and I will go from there. My email is dstarksen@advancedclutch.com. Do you have a website already that I can look at?
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Dirk , just wanted to make sure you got my email...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dirk , just wanted to make sure you got my email...</TD></TR></TABLE>Yup! I will respond via email when I get caught up with catalog proofing. Thanks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by integra-modder &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rocket.....


can you fix the pictures in this post?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Best thing to do is go to wiredspeedlab.com and read it there.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CRV Monster &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't think Rocket will see this, he's usually in the All motor camp </TD></TR></TABLE>

True but this hits my recent topics.

I am glad Clutch 101 has helped so many people. And people still doubt me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hksturbolude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how is clutchmasters' ceramic friction material on the stage 4 clutch when it comes to longevity...im looking into a CM stage 4 because of the holding capacity and pedal feel...so id like to know if youd be able to help me out with how its durability would be for daily driving? i know pedal feel will be close to stock but what bout its impact on a stock flywheel? will it eat it up or will it be ok?...and how is it handling power? im planning to but 375+to the wheels...its for a h23a1 prelude turbo...thanks!


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I am not a fan of CM clutches. Take a Action, ACT, and CM apart and you'll agree with me.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swlabhot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah, thx for your reply. I'm in a dilemma at the mo cuz its already cost me $$ the 1st time round and its still not on my car yet as the stock one is back on so at least I can drive it for now. If I get the tech to try what you suggested and its still no good then I'll be wasting more $$$ and still have no clutch.

But if I send it back to you and the Action is OK, shipping will cost me also for nothing??? I just need a second opinion to be absolutely sure that its the install, flywheel or hydraulics thats causing the problem and not the clutch.

If I had the tools and a ramp, I'll do the damn thing myself but I haven't....

Is there anyway that you can tell if the clutch is faulty by just looking at it or anyway that I can test it without installing it on the car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Please describe your problem.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope you don't mind if I chime in.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I am honored.

I've been known to do some shameless plugs myself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ACTman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are the dates on this thread correct? If so, Rocket and I have chatted a few times since then. I would love for him to come up to our shop in Lancaster and see what we do here. He knows his stuff, but he is missing a few of the finer points. knowing how much he likes tech, he would really benefit from a tour and tech session.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I thought I gave myself a PhD in clutches but I guess I'll go over to ACT for the final exam.

I'll try to make some time and head over there. Is lunch included?

 

Unable to engage in any gear after the 2MD was installed!

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by swlabhot &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unable to engage in any gear after the 2MD was installed!</TD></TR></TABLE>

You'll need to send to Action for Alex to test the release of the clutch.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rocket &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You'll need to send to Action for Alex to test the release of the clutch.</TD></TR></TABLE>


that sucks...i still havent gotten my clutch installed...but i hope when i get around to it, it doesnt **** me in the *** like it did this guy....