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Old Jun 28, 2002 | 01:26 PM
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I have a 91 Flywheel that I'm going to use.
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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 09:48 AM
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AWESOME POST!!!!!! really is!!!!!
i saw your post that you usually reccomend 3 clucthes.
WHAT ARE THOSE CLUTCHES?????
i was going to get a clutchnet but forget that now
i was also leaning towards the act 6 puck..but I dont want to eat my flywheel ..
I want something thats aggresive but not crazy like a 4 puck (i dont think you even mentioned any in this post anyways) and something that will last a decent amt of time and the best one at not eating other driveline parts.
thanks



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Old Jun 29, 2002 | 11:18 AM
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Wow, thanks for the info rocket. Very helpful to us newbies. In reference to you 'hardcore or not' comment : Just how hard is it? I mean am i gonna have one leg bigger than the other after a few months of that clutch? What do you reccommend for my setup, basically 3" custom exhaust and an intercooled greddy kit on my d16y8. Prolly only around 170whp and that will be fine with me I have to drive my car 6 days a week, work 70 hours and drive a long way to see my g/f(50 miles yeah im whining) any suggestion for a clutch designed to last a while, but grips good and is proper for daily driving and weekly track (strip only, weekends). Thanks for the help and try to answer this if it makes sense, im really tired sorry
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 01:22 PM
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wow rocket, great posts!!

one thing that i have rea and heard from many people is that some clutches aren't as good for high-rpm usage as others, i.e. 9000-10000+ rpm N/A guys. I think specifically I remember hearing that ACT clutches aren't good for real high rpms.

Can you tell me if this is true and if so, why can one clutch physically handle higher rpms than another if they can both handle the same power for example?

-Xerxes
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 02:26 PM
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AWESOME POST!!!!!! really is!!!!!
i saw your post that you usually reccomend 3 clucthes.
WHAT ARE THOSE CLUTCHES?????
i was going to get a clutchnet but forget that now
i was also leaning towards the act 6 puck..but I dont want to eat my flywheel ..
I want something thats aggresive but not crazy like a 4 puck (i dont think you even mentioned any in this post anyways) and something that will last a decent amt of time and the best one at not eating other driveline parts.
thanks



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I think you would like the Action Dual Diaphram. Do a search for my name, I wrote a review not too long ago.
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 02:28 PM
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here is the link.

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=218401
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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 02:59 PM
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i cant find a webpage for the company.do you know of one?


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Old Jun 30, 2002 | 09:15 PM
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i don't think they have one. If they did I am sure Rocket would have included it in his dirst post when he linked to all the others.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 01:15 PM
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ttt
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 04:57 PM
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Default Re: Clutch 101 by Rocket (SiRkid)

AWESOME POST!!!!!! really is!!!!!
i saw your post that you usually reccomend 3 clucthes.
WHAT ARE THOSE CLUTCHES?????
i was going to get a clutchnet but forget that now
i was also leaning towards the act 6 puck..but I dont want to eat my flywheel ..
I want something thats aggresive but not crazy like a 4 puck (i dont think you even mentioned any in this post anyways) and something that will last a decent amt of time and the best one at not eating other driveline parts.
thanks
1) Action Single Heavy with a Metallic Six Puck
2) Action Single Heavy with a Segmented Kevlar disc
2) Action Dual Diaphram with a Metallic Six Puck (2K_TEG's clutch)

All clutches have long life with the Kevlar one lasting literally forever (I am not exaggerating here).
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 05:02 PM
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Wow, thanks for the info rocket. Very helpful to us newbies. In reference to you 'hardcore or not' comment : Just how hard is it? I mean am i gonna have one leg bigger than the other after a few months of that clutch? What do you reccommend for my setup, basically 3" custom exhaust and an intercooled greddy kit on my d16y8. Prolly only around 170whp and that will be fine with me I have to drive my car 6 days a week, work 70 hours and drive a long way to see my g/f(50 miles yeah im whining) any suggestion for a clutch designed to last a while, but grips good and is proper for daily driving and weekly track (strip only, weekends). Thanks for the help and try to answer this if it makes sense, im really tired sorry
When I say hardcore I mean some one who likes things to be more race than stock. Sometimes people like things like stock sometimes people don't. That's what I mean.

Action has the capability to tailor pedal pressure so it can be stock or sporty on the single heavy pressure plates. This comes from the experience of making hundreds of pressure plates a year.

I don't mean this thread to be a plug but a Action single heavy duty with a six puck metallic will fit the bill for you.

Thanks for your post.
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Old Jul 1, 2002 | 05:08 PM
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wow rocket, great posts!!

one thing that i have rea and heard from many people is that some clutches aren't as good for high-rpm usage as others, i.e. 9000-10000+ rpm N/A guys. I think specifically I remember hearing that ACT clutches aren't good for real high rpms.

Can you tell me if this is true and if so, why can one clutch physically handle higher rpms than another if they can both handle the same power for example?

-Xerxes
ACT clutches with the pucks are fine. Maybe people had problems with the street disc since it can't hold up to high rpm launches due to the weak organic material.

The rule of thumb for high rpm usage is the lighter the disc the easier it will be to shift.

Thanks for your post.
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 10:40 AM
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What are your thoughts(and I don't think I saw this question before) on the Clutchnet "Kush-loc" dics, with the new ACT HD PP? This is the setup that I have had sitting in my living room for last 3 weeks as I await my JDM Final Drive to arrive...btw I'm NA and will be using the Comptech Al 6.75 lb flywheel.
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Austin
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Old Jul 2, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Kush-Lock means that there is a flat spring (called Marcel) in between the organic lining to provide a more progessive (easier) engagement. The organic lining however is not very strong and is the main liability here. The disc it self is a good design.

I am not saying it won't work but it is more likely to fail than a six puck metallic or a segmented kevlar disc. Organic just can't handle high heat or high shock loads.

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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 02:51 PM
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What's good about twin plate clutch?
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Old Jul 3, 2002 | 02:55 PM
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Nothing really. It just has to be made that way to have the flat springs (Marcel) between the friction lining. It's like saying a disc is a dual piece, 1 center hub and 1 back plate.
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Just some more info for you guys, Exedy's racing clutch for the D series has a dual diaphram pressure plate with a unity (organic) disc. It has a tough pedal but engagement is pretty decent. I like it anyway. It is very easy to get a good launch in my CRX.

For all of you OEM guys- Exedy's standard clutch is identical to Honda's (Exedy makes Honda's clutches) with the exception that it also comes with the unity disc. This disc is much more reliable than the stock Honda disc due to its forged spring retainers and single piece marcel construction. I see Honda's stock clutches fail from the springs popping out of the hub all the time. (particularly with abusive driving) The downside to the unity disc is slightly more drivetrain noise (from stiffer springs)- mostly on decel. The S2000 has this same noise. This clutch can be had for $110 (complete kit) shipped from clutchcity online - Rocket may or may not be able to offer a better deal.
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 07:46 PM
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Default Re: Clutch 101 by Rocket (fixhondas)

since so many experts are here
i just got a question and don't want to start a new thread

when people say the clutch is slipping, what exactly is happening??
will it be visible when i look at the clutch??

th anks
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 07:57 PM
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A slipping clutch means the clutch disc is rotating at a different speed than the flywheel/pressure plate. Slippage can be caused by worn clutch components (mainly disc), glazed linings, contamination, too much torque, too much heat, etc...

You can look for signs of the above when you have the clutch in front of you.
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Old Jul 8, 2002 | 07:59 PM
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thanks

hondasaver rules

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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 09:56 AM
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I thought Honda clutches were made by Daiken?

... that's what's stamped on the pressure plate anyway...
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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I thought Honda clutches were made by Daiken?

... that's what's stamped on the pressure plate anyway...
Same company. I'll post a pic of their pressure plate box soon.




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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:08 PM
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This clutch can be had for $110 (complete kit) shipped from clutchcity online - Rocket may or may not be able to offer a better deal.
That's a great price and the great choice if you are not looking to make crazy power and are on a tight budget.
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Old Jul 9, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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When's the Pres Plate section coming?

I know your busy, but I'm just wondering if you know

Here's another for the great work!
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Old Jul 10, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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Funny you ask, everyday I drive home from work and I am saying to myself I got to write some stuff on the pressure plates. Maybe tonight.
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