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Look at the numbers for this pump. It doesn't really flow that much. 320l/hr. That's not much more than an intank. Jason Hunt was using this pump on his coupe...but he used 2 of them. Who has really gone fast on 1 of these pumps? Who has run the MPH that the dyno numbers show? I've seen alot of big dyno numbers with this pump, but haven't seen anyone go over 150mph with it...

 

Stan was getting more. Also, jason hunt ran 2 of these and now I know why. This pump is rated at 680bhp.

Here are some pics:

 

so people are spending 700 $ on a fuel system that supports the same power as a 90$ 255 wahlboro and stock lines....

 

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aI guesss o, damm i fell dumb now!!!

 

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for $700 i would have gone aeromotive 1000 pump/filter combo...still had cash leftover =P

 

http://www.tweakit.net/shop/pr...d=369

"Recommended for Turbo/Supercharged engines upto 600HP. "

http://www.xspeed.com.au/shop/...429c1

"BOSCH 044 600hp External EFI Fuel Pump"

http://clam.rutgers.edu/~dread...p.txt

 

has anyone tried feeding the bosch with an intank 255 and -8 lines? I may do that and see what happens

 

i have the 044 on my car and per the website tony posted

"Bosch 044 pump is 330 litres per hour and supports 730 bhp at 73.5 PSI # 0 580 254 044"

the pump didn't cost me anywhere near 700 bucks and i did manage to now run SS lines from the tank to the front. If it comes down to running another line off the tank, then that's not a huge deal. Atleast i have a baseline setup. Plus we all know its not possible to uses a Areomotive A1000 as a puller and get over 700whp out of the pump. I think most have to move to the eliminator pump or one of the SX pumps.

if you ran the walbro which is restricted to 255lph and then put the bosch after it with a limit of 330lph, wouldn't htat just keep pressure constant.

 

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I really don't think the pump will work like that.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by seen4ever &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bosch 044 pump is 330 litres per hour and supports 730 bhp at 73.5 PSI # 0 580 254 044"
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730bhp, which is what 640whp? Sounds about right then. I am not trying to rain on anyone's parade or anything. Every single advertisement shows to be right round 630whp. Even the manufactor shows this. On Endyn's page it says, "Unless you are making 750hp you'll never need another pump." guess what, we are already there.. http://www.theoldone.com/components/fuelpumps/

I too have told people that they would make more, but I was wrong. Won't be 1st time Ive been wrong. I still use and recomend this pump over any other pump.

art

 

I think A1000 will support over 700whp. I guess I will what mine maxes out at?

I seen bosch pumps for around $250.

I rather sump the tank and run a1000 or eliminator pump

 

hey art,tony how does the bosch flow compaired to the weldon 600a? or are they pretty much the same

 

it sucks i just spent alot of money for this kit to hear this

 

yes i very much agree but that what happens in life. im already thinking of taking my **** out and gsumping the tank and goin to a weldon 2025

 

Hey guys, how about instead of being spoon fed everything, you do some research and make your own decisions. All this information is out there and very easy to find...

 

not trying to be nasty with you tony i asked that question becasue i personally have not been able to figure out how to read flow charts... yes i know i need to learn but when i look at them i cant figure out how to read them.. that my honest anwser...... i asked you and art becasue im sure that you know the anwser.... if i knew the anwser i wouldnt ask ... its not about being spoon fed... i can find the charts i just cant read them....

if i want to be spoon fed i would asked how do install the pump in such but no i went outside and got creative with making the pickup and such......

sorry
bret

 

I promise you you'll be better off in the long run if you learn what you need to learn. The internet is amazing, everything is out there. Fuel pump flow charts are not complicated at all. If you did a little research, i'm sure you could figure out how they work. Find the pressure you will be running (base + however much boost you plan to run). Find out how much each pump flows at that pressure and compare numbers. They may be listed in different units. Find a conversion calculator on the internet and convert them to 1 standard unit, whatever it may be, and then you have exactly what you're looking for. I don't know all the flow numbers of pumps, i have to look them up just like you, so you can see why i'm reluctant to do the work for you. Apexi used to have a liscense plate that said "knowledge is power". It's very true. Instead of asking for all the answers, educate yourself a little and make wise decisions. If you understand how something works, then you're much more likely to make the right decision. Don't listen to people who are selling stuff, more often than not they'll tell you what you want to hear, true or not...

 

Before everyone freaks out and thinks they need a bigger fuel pump, remember, this is the first time i've heard of anyone maxing out this fuel pump. It really does max out at this power, but I think it shows you how many people are really making over 650whp. In my opinion 2 of these pumps would be about the most reliable fuel system you could put together. When i was researching these pumps, i found a pic of a fuel pickup from a WRC car, 2 of these 044 pumps. That definitely says something about their reliability!

 

Is anyone else running an inline filter pre-pump like this with out a sumped tank? (puller style)

 

I'd have to say tony is right on alot of things, and i think alot of people need to stop the crying about spending money on these pumps thinking they have bought complete junk. I kind of thought alot of people who bought these pumps bought them for the shear factor that they support more than a walbro and have an extremely good reputation for reliability.

I put this pump on a street car. if i max it out and find that i need more power, well i have lines ran and i can sell the pump or just add another one. regardless with the money people have spent, its good money spent, you need to buy lines and run it all anyways. you're out what 350 for the pump or whatever.

Plus it is showing that in the past, people thought the limits were much higher, it just so happens that we are advancing power output with better equipment that in the past and street cars are getting over 650whp.

I'm still happy with my pump for the shear factory that i'm sure my gt35e will max out about the time the pump will max out and even with the nitrous i want to spray, i'll just have to see if the pump can keep up.

 

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Any pics? too lazy to search!!! JOKING MAN!!!

 

Anyone have any pictures of a twin-bosch setup?

 

come on now, think about it, its not that hard for 2 pumps. You can run them off the same relay or if you are paranoid, then just use one, but mimic the fuel pick up as you did for the first one, by running a second tube down the pickup in a -8 line. run that to the pump, to a second filter, then run that line next to the primary line to the engine bay. You can do one of two feed methods, depending on how your FPR is setup. You can run a dual feed fuel rail (aka feed from left & right) with FPR coming off the top via a line) or if you have a big rail, just a "Y" fitting to feed two -8s to one -10 or to a -8 and run it like factory setup.

I'd think that the stock feed line may not be able to keep up with that much return fuel, but it may, but i think a -6 line would flow better, doubt you'd need 1/2in (-8) return line.

It really wouldn't be that hard to add to the current system if the times comes down to needing more fuel. Might have to get creative on the fuel pickup, but its easily doable, just have to fabricate a little.

 

I am running this pump as well and by the this news i should be near its max. I'm only at 471whp on a Dyno Dynamics dyno but this is on E85 fuel.