block guard install?
i just had a GE blockguard installed on my b18b turbo set up. my cluster says im overheating but i think its faulty, so im going to get a water temp gauge and see what it tells me. hopefully that im not overheating. also, anti-freeze bubbles over into the coolant reserve bottle so i got a new radiator...havent started her up since, so we'll see what happens (fingers crossed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by inspecta83 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just had a GE blockguard installed on my b18b turbo set up. my cluster says im overheating but i think its faulty, so im going to get a water temp gauge and see what it tells me. hopefully that im not overheating. also, anti-freeze bubbles over into the coolant reserve bottle so i got a new radiator...havent started her up since, so we'll see what happens (fingers crossed)</TD></TR></TABLE>
um buddy, your overheating. first its the gauge cluster thats bad, then the radiators bad, then you will say the overfill bottle, then the thermostat....you think maybe its the blockguard???
um buddy, your overheating. first its the gauge cluster thats bad, then the radiators bad, then you will say the overfill bottle, then the thermostat....you think maybe its the blockguard???
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ive never had a problem with blockguards in my motors i think (alot not all) of the probs people have is from on installation error or not checking tolerences after..
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're the one full of BS with 78 posts. YOU ARE WRONG. Have you ever even installed a blockguard before? Go hit your ******* beer bong again, maybe it will make you smarter.
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You neglected thermal expansion then? They expand at different rates, the force has to be lloaded somewhere, or held as residual stresses.
Unfortunalet cylinder shapes are ace if subject to a axial load, ie standing on a coke can, but if you apply any sideways force it will change teh shape, regardless of the tensile strength of the material.
General rule... block guards suck
You're the one full of BS with 78 posts. YOU ARE WRONG. Have you ever even installed a blockguard before? Go hit your ******* beer bong again, maybe it will make you smarter.
</TD></TR></TABLE>You neglected thermal expansion then? They expand at different rates, the force has to be lloaded somewhere, or held as residual stresses.
Unfortunalet cylinder shapes are ace if subject to a axial load, ie standing on a coke can, but if you apply any sideways force it will change teh shape, regardless of the tensile strength of the material.
General rule... block guards suck
HONING is the process use to get a cross hatch patern in your cylinder walls when replacing piston rings for the rings seal better, usually removing small amount of the metal, with a honing tool or ball type hone, and a drill. in short If you are not rebuilding your engine or replacing piston rings it would not make any sense hone just for a blockgaurd.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by lagingtorpe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey what do you guys mean about honing the block after resleeving? Also how much does this generally cost?</TD></TR></TABLE>
make sure not to tap too hard and force the blockguard in.
Back in the day, i didnt know any better and tapped mine in pretty hard. Ended up egg shaping the hell outta my sleeves. Block still sits in my garage til this day..wut a waste.
btw, this was an str blockguard. Those things need to be filed to hell to fit properly.
Back in the day, i didnt know any better and tapped mine in pretty hard. Ended up egg shaping the hell outta my sleeves. Block still sits in my garage til this day..wut a waste.
btw, this was an str blockguard. Those things need to be filed to hell to fit properly.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JonnyCoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You neglected thermal expansion then? They expand at different rates, the force has to be lloaded somewhere, or held as residual stresses.
Unfortunalet cylinder shapes are ace if subject to a axial load, ie standing on a coke can, but if you apply any sideways force it will change teh shape, regardless of the tensile strength of the material.
General rule... block guards suck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Without a blockguard there is still more side load force than axial load. The pistons are forcing side load onto the cylinder walls, which is what they are designed to hold up against.
You neglected thermal expansion then? They expand at different rates, the force has to be lloaded somewhere, or held as residual stresses.
Unfortunalet cylinder shapes are ace if subject to a axial load, ie standing on a coke can, but if you apply any sideways force it will change teh shape, regardless of the tensile strength of the material.
General rule... block guards suck</TD></TR></TABLE>
Without a blockguard there is still more side load force than axial load. The pistons are forcing side load onto the cylinder walls, which is what they are designed to hold up against.
i believe that there is a little lip that the top of the block gaurd rests on to keep it from sliding down, sorry thats just regurgitated though as i have no experience with them. im pretty sure thats right though.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tek_civic »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i believe that there is a little lip that the top of the block gaurd rests on to keep it from sliding down, sorry thats just regurgitated though as i have no experience with them. im pretty sure thats right though.</TD></TR></TABLE>
this is correct..
this is correct..
if your have overheating with a blockguard then you either have some **** *** one or something else is wrong....my buddies turbo gsr hatch with a older STR blockguard had no heating problems at all in the middle of the summer (80-90 outside)...his car was daily drive as well, in stop and go traffic.
I had this installed at a local shop. The guard is from AZ race & Machine. They said it went in with a little shaving and freezing. The guard will not slip down because the walls of the block its self are tappered because of the casting. The cyl. did warp when installed, but that was easily taken out when they bored, honed, and decked the block. Also, overheating from block guards is usually from deck mounting. It is sugested to mount the guard 1/4" into the block
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From what I've been told is, IF it doesn't fit, file off some of the tabs until it can slide in and out, and no, welding isn't necessary.

