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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 11:20 AM
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ok i have a b20b gsr semi built head and t3/4 turbo pushing 10psi.

heres what is going on. i bought the car and it had ok compression around 185.
then i started seeing smoke some did another test and they came in
#1 75
#2 100
#3 105
#4 100

so i said to myself do a headgasket because it would run hot comming up hills. so i replaced the head gasket. did another compression check and
#1 80
#2 115
#3 120
#4 90

so at this point im pissed off seeing that it wasnt the gasket. so i read up on things and found that a i should test my rings. so i bought a leak down tester and could hear air excaping from the block so hey its my rings.
so i replaced my rings last week. did a whole rebuild had the machine shop hone the cylinders and mirco polish the crank.

got the car running and did another compression test.

#1 120
#2 125
#3 115
#4 90

but im not getting any smoke like i used to. so where do i go from here? im stumpped and pissed off.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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adjust valves make sure timming is spot on and recheck comp again
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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have a nice day

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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by intense4thgen
adjust valves make sure timming is spot on and recheck comp again
ya i need to read up on how to adjust the valves. i just came over from sohc. the timming is dead on.
and they are stock cast pistons. i looked at them and didnt see anything wrong. but i didnt go over it with a fine tooth comb.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:40 AM
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how about valve seals? they should have checked the head to see if it was sealing. another thing, are you doing your compression test with your throttle wide open?
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 05:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bigodub93
ya i need to read up on how to adjust the valves. i just came over from sohc. the timming is dead on.
and they are stock cast pistons. i looked at them and didnt see anything wrong. but i didnt go over it with a fine tooth comb.
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/v...alveadjust.php

read that ^^

the way i did it was bent feller gauges on an angle so i could stick them between the valve and the bottom of the rocker that has te adjuster on it. then use a deep socket and hold it with vise grips and break it loose/ adjust it with a screwdriver
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by fv8s
http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/v...alveadjust.php

read that ^^

the way i did it was bent feller gauges on an angle so i could stick them between the valve and the bottom of the rocker that has te adjuster on it. then use a deep socket and hold it with vise grips and break it loose/ adjust it with a screwdriver
that's an awesome write up
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 06:36 AM
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i think you toasted a motor
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:07 AM
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never had the head checked. but i will get on the valve adjustment today.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bigodub93
never had the head checked. but i will get on the valve adjustment today.
well if ur valves aren't sealing then you're losing compressing through them. esp if u have new rings.
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Old Jul 2, 2010 | 08:59 AM
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i didnt know its almost as easy to do valve adjustment on a dohc as a sohc just need to bend up a 10mm wrench. could i see smoke out the exhaust if the valves are out of adjustment?
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:32 PM
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ok took a break from the car but now im back in the garage. i did a valve adjustment and a leak down test. after the valve adjustment i redid the compression test and this is what i came up with.

#1=120
#2=160
#3=160
#4=150
i should still be higher than that right
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:37 PM
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worn cylinders, the hone probably took off too much. or your ring gaps are way off
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:41 PM
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Default Re: b20 vtec turbo compression problems

or at least much closer together for those numbers.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:44 PM
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here's my leak down test. i bought a tester from harbor freight and hope its good enought to get the job done.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCrk1Ngfi54
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by blackeg
or at least much closer together for those numbers.
ya im glad that there closer together but i want they higher up. should i try to redue the valves again sience that made so much of a diffrence. i did 6 intake and 7 exhaust (itr cams)
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 06:11 PM
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did you copper spray the HG?
Copper spraying an MLS gasket is the wrong thing to do. It keeps the nitrile coating from sealing the motor
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
did you copper spray the HG?
Copper spraying an MLS gasket is the wrong thing to do. It keeps the nitrile coating from sealing the motor
I copper sprayed the hell out of that thing. I'm one of thoes people that beloved in copper spray.
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 07:29 PM
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its not good on mls gaskets.. That black stuff on both sides is a rubber coating that helps the gasket seal, spraying that copper spray **** on it isnt a good thing
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Old Jul 13, 2010 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by wantboost
its not good on mls gaskets.. That black stuff on both sides is a rubber coating that helps the gasket seal, spraying that copper spray **** on it isnt a good thing
I searched forms and read that there is mixed opinions about using it and no real data to take sides. So I used it. Next time I might just not use anything.
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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i wounder if 006 intake and 007exhaust is too tight for valve lash. im going to try to search specs. and maybe redue it.
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