johncarlos

the more i read the more i see people with hondata or the AEM EMS why?
what is the bad side of using a missinglink?
like i stated in my other post my setup is almost done and am just now getting second toughts about the missinglink.can someone help me out here please?

bluebullet

missing link is not needed with Hondata or AEM EMS, most of the time missing links are used with FMU setups.

johncarlos

yeh my i am using a adjustable fpr with a v-afc
and stock ecu.so will i be able to make it to 300+whp with my setup?saftly

bluebullet

Can't give an accurate response with only that much info. I wouldn't imagine you'll get 300whp "safely" from that setup on a stock b or d block.

aka010010

i have seen it done to a b16.

but it has rods and pistons in it too.

if you use vafc hack, u might as well keep the fmu and missing so it would be easier to tune. or that what i heard.

91tegrals

i have heard that with the hack and a missing link and a fmu the car will not run all that great and you are better off with out them...

johncarlos

no am not using the hack.my block is fully built for boost.the head is stock and the ecu is stock.it on a h22a motor and the turbo is a turbonetics t3/t4oe .60 trim. am using the greddy injectors.

totalimpact

ya, i have a buddy with LS + rev hard kit with FMU, vafc, missing link and it dont run worth a dam when it hits boost. When it hits boost its like the rev limiter kicks in and the motor bogs. - any thoughts?

Nick7

Geez...

OK - there are usualy 3 (most common) ways to boost honda:

1: FMU + missing link
2: AFC hack + larger injectors
3: standalone + larger injectors

Note that number 2 and 3 don't need missing link - actually, using missing link will just f*ck up everything!
Missing link prevents ECU from getting a CEL due to ECU reading boost.
If using AFC hack and alrger injectors, AFC already lowers MAP input into ECU - sto there is no CEL. If you use missing link with AFC, you'll f*ck up signals under boost, and yr car will run like ****.
It's all been on every board so many times.. please people - read!!!
I was just reading thru many boards for months and months before I went turbo...

DjFreeze

thanks for the info. was wondering the same thing

stackz

not only that but if you run an fmu AND hack you'll end up with 2 things trying to control your fuel at the same time lol.

first the hack will be pushing the injectors up in duty cycle and THEN the fmu will be raising fuel rail pressure on top of that.

I can only imagine the fucked up spray pattern of those poor injectors under that kind of load....