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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 03:26 PM
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your block is o-ringed? did you have them replaced (the o-rings)? you can only get one shot out of them i believe... also are they copper? i can't believe only one person mentioned this.. also what kind of headgasket are you using? i recommend SCE titan and get a o ring kit from them while you are at it! also they recommend re-torquing the head!
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Old Feb 17, 2005 | 03:27 PM
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the benson block has a .003 steped deck so , o-rings are not needed
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Old Feb 18, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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ahh darn... good luck man hope its not the sleeves..
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:28 PM
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well, leak down and compression are perfect..

We believe its something with the way the catch can is ran.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:38 PM
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i can believe that. I was gonna say that becuase i had the same set up , same can i think. Did you do the Endyne?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by itr206 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i can believe that. I was gonna say that becuase i had the same set up , same can i think. Did you do the Endyne?</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a greddy, i need to know how set it up.
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 05:52 PM
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heres how i run mine.. no valve cover breather filter and no filter on oil catch can.. although i don't know if it will help at this point

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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 06:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vtec.dc2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres how i run mine.. no valve cover breather filter and no filter on oil catch can.. although i don't know if it will help at this point

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I dont have a stock manifodl anymore. No more pcv valve..

Did you hook your oil catch can to the black box?
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Old Feb 20, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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I use the Z-10 kit and it uses the ports on the back of the block. What is under your valve cover is in my catch can.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:12 PM
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Hey guys I wanted to shed some light on a similiar problem that I am having. First off, I too have Benson sleeves 84 mm bore. My valve cover looks exactly the same as yours Jordan. I dropped the oil pan and found my oil to be fine, there is no milkyness or milky color to it, just plain oil. I took my oil breather box (I think that is what its called) off the back of the block, and it was full of the milky stuff too, but it also had water in it. Its not coolant, it is clear. I am loosing some coolant out of the resivior though. I thought that I was the only one with these problems, but it looks like there is a few of us. I am going to put some Barrs Radiator stop a leak in and monitor it for a few days. I will let you know what I find out.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18Jay &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I am going to put some Barrs Radiator stop a leak in and monitor it for a few days. I will let you know what I find out. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Save yourself the headache. I've tried that and it didn't work. Has anyone tried just running the stock PCV setup without a catch can? I didn't have this problem when I had only a DRAG turbo kit. Basically I just had the breather filter on the valve cover with no other mods to the stock PCV system. When I started getting creative with the PCV system is when I noticed the problem.

EDIT: It still doesn't explain why the coolant is disappearing on a consistent basis.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:25 PM
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Is it just me, or is every other post by this kid one of his car breaking something?? Man, good luck.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 03:58 PM
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still have no idea..

the problem is still there..

I talked to earl he has no idea..

do all of you guys have stepped deck blocks??
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

do all of you guys have stepped deck blocks??</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iiilgsrlll &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i think thats the problem
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jordo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i think thats the problem
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Not enough clamping force on the head gasket?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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Yes, mine is a stepped deck block also.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 06:03 PM
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I honestly think its the step deck..

do to disassemble the motor when you resurfaced the block?
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 07:07 PM
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my block is stepped also , but i dont think that is the problem , cus it is only stepped .003 of an inch , if you have had your heads or blocks surfaced , have you sortend your dowel pins ??? cus it could hold the head up , but i think i would pressure test the block next and check the sleeves , my car is back together and running so i will see if i have any issues ,
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18C1CYA &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my block is stepped also , but i dont think that is the problem , cus it is only stepped .003 of an inch , if you have had your heads or blocks surfaced , have you sortend your dowel pins ??? cus it could hold the head up , but i think i would pressure test the block next and check the sleeves , my car is back together and running so i will see if i have any issues , </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was told by Earl that if you stated your car was to be a street car the step deck was reduced to .002". I asked Earl and Dan about the dowel pins and they both told me it was not necessary to shorten them. That was in the back of my mind the entire time. Let us know how it goes with your car.
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Old Feb 21, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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yes i will let you guys know how it goes , cus i better not have any issues with it , and i did say it was a street car , but any way time will tell , now i just need the weather to change and to get my retune ,
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 07:05 AM
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I feel your guy's pain. Here is the one key element. Not one of you guys have had milky oil IN THE PAN. That is where the sleeves would be leaking, so I don't think it is a sleeve problem.
Things in common are a modified breather system, many complaints coming from costal areas (Gulf Breeze FL, San Diego CA, Louisiana, etc) and a slight loss of coolant.
Remember coolant can be pushed out of the radiator by pressure (micro head gasket pressure leaks into the cooling?), just a guess.
Milky valve cover can be caused by cool, moist air being sucked in the cover because of the fresh air breathing system. It mixes with the oil mist flying around in the valve cover area and becomes milky.
A key here is what B18Jay said. Kevin is running a 50-50 coolant mix but PURE water is coming out of his breather box, not a 50-50 mix. This is why I feel the milky valve cover is being cause by the breather.
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel your guy's pain. Here is the one key element. Not one of you guys have had milky oil IN THE PAN. That is where the sleeves would be leaking, so I don't think it is a sleeve problem.
Things in common are a modified breather system, many complaints coming from costal areas (Gulf Breeze FL, San Diego CA, Louisiana, etc) and a slight loss of coolant.
Remember coolant can be pushed out of the radiator by pressure (micro head gasket pressure leaks into the cooling?), just a guess.
Milky valve cover can be caused by cool, moist air being sucked in the cover because of the fresh air breathing system. It mixes with the oil mist flying around in the valve cover area and becomes milky.
A key here is what B18Jay said. Kevin is running a 50-50 coolant mix but PURE water is coming out of his breather box, not a 50-50 mix. This is why I feel the milky valve cover is being cause by the breather.</TD></TR></TABLE>

that makes alot of since, but why are we all losing coolant??
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 07:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel your guy's pain. Here is the one key element. Not one of you guys have had milky oil IN THE PAN. That is where the sleeves would be leaking, so I don't think it is a sleeve problem.
Things in common are a modified breather system, many complaints coming from costal areas (Gulf Breeze FL, San Diego CA, Louisiana, etc) and a slight loss of coolant.
Remember coolant can be pushed out of the radiator by pressure (micro head gasket pressure leaks into the cooling?), just a guess.
Milky valve cover can be caused by cool, moist air being sucked in the cover because of the fresh air breathing system. It mixes with the oil mist flying around in the valve cover area and becomes milky.
A key here is what B18Jay said. Kevin is running a 50-50 coolant mix but PURE water is coming out of his breather box, not a 50-50 mix. This is why I feel the milky valve cover is being cause by the breather.</TD></TR></TABLE>

would lose of coolant have anything to do with the breather system???

my money is on the stupid step deck
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Old Feb 22, 2005 | 07:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I feel your guy's pain. Here is the one key element. Not one of you guys have had milky oil IN THE PAN. That is where the sleeves would be leaking, so I don't think it is a sleeve problem.
Things in common are a modified breather system, many complaints coming from costal areas (Gulf Breeze FL, San Diego CA, Louisiana, etc) and a slight loss of coolant.
Remember coolant can be pushed out of the radiator by pressure (micro head gasket pressure leaks into the cooling?), just a guess.
Milky valve cover can be caused by cool, moist air being sucked in the cover because of the fresh air breathing system. It mixes with the oil mist flying around in the valve cover area and becomes milky.
A key here is what B18Jay said. Kevin is running a 50-50 coolant mix but PURE water is coming out of his breather box, not a 50-50 mix. This is why I feel the milky valve cover is being cause by the breather.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well mine was oil in the coolant i never had any milky crap in the oil at all , but when i took my head off the 2 middle studs where loose, my breather system is baffled , wich i know the greddy is not and endyn i dont think is eather , but i was missing coolant to but i live in upsate ny so no coast here , i realy hope we can all put are heads together and figure this out ,
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